Laura 0:00
Welcome to divinely grounded a podcast inviting you into sacred presence for real time alchemy tether to this awe inspiring space of conscious conversation so you can be activated by the electric exchange of raw conscious relationship witness where you're being called to polish the edges of your discernment in relationship with yourself and with others.
Jenna 0:25
Join us as divinely grounded plants fresh seeds of possibility to discover the purity of your unfolding truth. Together, we will transmute everyday experience into profound growth. I'm Jenna Greengold, the Conscious Alchemist.
Laura 0:40
And I'm Laura Mazzotta, an Akashic therapist. Sit back, relax and receive as new insights enter your awareness during these illuminating conversations.
Jenna 0:57
Welcome to episode seven of divinely grounded. I wanted to talk a bit about something Laura brought up, but she also touched on a prior episode with the idea of completing soul contracts and US remaining in a similar space. And the thought around that was, what if we're keeping ourselves in these spaces, because we're waiting to receive something within a space or a relationship that is keeping us from moving on from those contracts right and in that we continue to re wound ourselves and not necessarily, like reopen the contract. I mean it from like a from like a human perspective, we we open something that has already completed in our bodies or in in our souls, because we're wanting some sense of closure on something that would allow us to continue to move and that closure we're looking for externally, right, like whether that be a word or an apology or just anything that we're waiting from, especially in relationship, like just waiting on that final thing, right, that would allow us to move forward, a validation, a confirmation, and we keep ourselves tied to these spaces while wanting to move on because we're waiting to receive something. And I think that a lot of the time we don't do this consciously. I think we're we're just in that space where we don't want to move on from something or leave something because we haven't given ourselves permission to do it, and we want to receive that permission from someone else or from something else.
Laura 2:48
Exactly. We're outsourcing our power, right? We're outsourcing our power to someone else. When, you know, I've been in this situation myself several times in my life, and it's very clear that it was, it was a hiding for me, it was either a hiding, it was a hiding from myself, right? Because really, what I was doing was trying to grip onto something. When you're waiting to receive, you're in waiting energy, right? And that means you're not in active creation energy around what it is you want to go grab. But sometimes we aren't in that act of creation energy, because we do feel wounded. We might be in that victim space at that time. We might have just experienced something that leaves us a little rattled, right? And so it's it's honoring that at the same time that we don't avoid being present with ourselves in that and holding ourselves in it, rather than waiting for the person or the space outside of us to do that for us. We're trying to control someone else or the situation. We're either trying to get the outcome we want by trying to kind of force it out of a space that our contract is complete, but we still keep going back into it, and the juice has already been squeezed right like it's out, it's done. There's nothing left, and we keep going back for that because we are ultimately having trouble sitting down with ourselves and owning full responsibility for what it is we're looking to receive from something else or from someone else. And the really, the the message here is, is let go, man, let go, right? You're distracting yourself from choosing you. You're distracting yourself from getting to know yourself more deeply and trusting that you can hold yourself in all that comes with this. And you're distracting yourself from forwarding your own truth because you're afraid of losing something that you thought was your stability. You thought that was the tether that was holding you up. You thought that that was the thing that was clarifying who you are. But that's not holding you up. You. You're holding you up, and it's it's coming into that responsibility, and sometimes it can take iterations of this to remember that we are in that responsibility, that we can hold ourselves, to realize that's what we're meant for, because we keep going back to this stone that isn't going to give us any blood, and we keep trying to bang on it, and we're not getting anywhere in it. And really, what we're doing is kicking the can down the road on our own path and knowing who we are more deeply, and, and, and we're also stepping into the space of another person as we wait for permission, like so I'm actually like, this contract is done. The juice has been squeezed. This person or situation is is complete. Yet I'm still going back into it and actually pulling energy from that field or from that person's field into my own. It is not encroaching on me. I'm actually going in and dragging it in. I'm like, pulling it with all of my might, just to distort the clarity of my own lens so that I can avoid making the clear decision that I already know I desire to make somewhere deep inside of me, but I'm just too fucking stubborn or too distracted to sit and come to that
Jenna 6:16
Or scared.
Laura 6:18
Correct.
Jenna 6:18
Yeah, and we make it harder on ourselves in that, right?
Laura 6:21
We do, and we're it's really very intrusive into other people's fields as well. It's very good point, like, it's very intrusive, like, Oh, this is complete. I'm just gonna keep siphoning your energy. Some people call this energy vampires, right? Which I think is kind of a harsh term. It's a little intense, because nobody can take anything you unless you allow it like this. If you're pulling from this other person's field, they're obvious. Their soul is in contract with this too, like they know, and then they're also in responsibility for for creating boundaries and being like, Stop stealing my shit bitch, right? And so, but it's when we come to recognition of this, like, where am I pulling energy from another's field into mind when it's like, could you just let it fucking go? Like, put your hands down, let go of the energetic cords and be with yourself, babe. Because I promise you, if that contract is meant to renew, it's gonna fucking arrive. You're gonna know it's gonna be a soft, natural opening, not as forceful pulling.
Jenna 7:22
I like that, because when we stay in those spaces, we make ourselves feel like, like we're being tested. Because in that extraction, it's like, let me find something that will prove I'm meant to be here, prove that I'm meant to continue to stay here, or continue to learn or grow in this space, and it becomes this self imposed duty that we take on as service. And that's not what service is. And it may no longer feel like our path. It may no longer resonate shout out to Episode Six, but we do it anyway, because we still consider it that service, and we need to allow the other thing that we are in contract with to come into duty with themselves. I feel like that that can be very egoic right to be like, Oh, I'm here to do this for you. It's like, No, it's for them. Like they get to choose what to do, let them receive your energy. But don't sit there and think that you're there for that your service is someone else.
Laura 8:32
If you have to jump through that many hoops with resistance on the other side, right, it's you. We're meant to serve where service is received. And that doesn't mean that you're not going to feel some resistance from the other side, because not everybody's going to be like, fully gung ho, but it's like, okay, you might have some resistance, but ultimately they're willing to have a conversation. Ultimately they're open to coming into exchange with you. They are curious about your role. They are soft into it with welcoming you. So why do you keep looking for evidence that you fit in a place that is not softly receiving you, that is not curious and eager for what you have to offer. Because don't you desire that for yourself to be in space with people who are very genuinely eager to hear what you have to say, even if they're in dissonance, right? Stop clamoring for all of these previous threads that have kept you tethered. You're just you're just afraid to fly, when actually the freedom that you desire to taste is is what exists within that letting go of the kite strings.
Jenna 9:52
And it's sinking into that internal truth, the validation that arises within your knowing. Mm. Not a validation that arises in finally seeing something outside of you, or finally receiving something from someone else, that allows you to say, Okay, now I'm done, because eventually, I mean, the universe meets that energy source will meet that energy and would you not rather come to this place of understanding, within yourself, within softness, than being smacked over the head with it in a way that's that's volatile energetically.
Laura 10:36
It’s wild. It's reminding me of my sepsis journey, and that after I had that, and I was, I was goddamn determined to get better. I was going to make myself better. I can heal myself after I wasn't getting anywhere in the medical community, blah, blah, blah, right? And I remember when I first found the Akashic records, and I was just like, holy shit. I mean, the level of of healing that I received to the level of expansiveness. And I remember when it reminds me of being in like a hot air balloon, right? And just like, letting go of all the ropes and just letting myself go up and be like, Wow, this feels fucking good. And I remember my husband looking at me and saying, I have no idea what the fuck you're doing, but keep doing it because you're getting so much better. And I was just, holy shit, this feels good. And I didn't understand it. I had no idea what I was doing. It scared the shit out of me, because I was like, I feel like I'm going into no man's land with no, quote, unquote, evidence based practice, from being a therapist for 20 years in addition to being in the medical community, that this is going to make me better, it feels like my life depends on this, right? But I was just like, holy shit. Like I can feel this I can feel this opening, and I know that I'm not meant to stay sick. I know that I'm not meant to keep going through these volatile cycles that you're talking about, of continuing to get ill, of continuing to come up against a wall, you know? And it's just like, okay, like everybody in my life is probably gonna think I'm crazy, but here we fucking go, right, and it's just that's myself. Was waiting for me. Never in a million years could I have anticipated that I would have been at this level of confidence and self love and self trust and self adoration. I didn't think it existed. I thought it was cocky as fuck. I resisted the hell out of it. So that's what's on the other side of me. Instead continuing to look back and grabbing all of these doctors give me the answer. No, no, no, no, no, there's something here for me. No, no, I know there's an answer. I know there's a pill, I know there's a remedy, I know there's a test. And instead of looking back at all of that and trying to extract and force all of that. When that contract was fucking done, I was like, I'm letting go, and I'm letting go. I'm just gonna be with me. I'm just gonna connect with my soul. I'm gonna have a relationship with my soul, and I'm going to claim responsibility for where I am right now, whatever that fucking looks like, and look where it guided me. Look where I am now, on fucking fire on episode seven of divinely grounded. Let's fucking go.
Jenna 13:06
This is hot. And I really like this example because it's an example of a situation and a thing, as opposed to a person or a relationship, because we can give these examples in relationships, like all day, all night. I really like this example as being like a situation.
Laura 13:25
I agree. Because every single one of us can come up with a relationship, me included, that we've gone back to try to get things from or an answer or validation or approval or closure, or what, right?
Jenna 13:37
Yeah, Hell Yeah. Fuck yeah Episode Seven.
Laura 13:40
Yeah I think I'm kind of done with Episode Seven. How do you feel about that?
Jenna 13:44
I'm complete as fuck.
Laura 13:46
Yeah, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna settle down over here. All right.
Jenna 13:49
Yeah I just need to be with myself for a minute.
Laura 13:51
All right, you guys, have a good day. We'll see you next time. See you later. Guys, you
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