Laura 0:00
Welcome back to a very special episode of the Akashic musings Podcast. Today. I'm here with Dani Whelly. She is a mind, body and soul coach and healer, and I absolutely love what she's up to in the world. I love the vibes she's putting out. And I just reached out to her and said, let's jump on and have a conversation to talk about what we were just discussing, which is that there is no ceiling to what you can do to feel your happiest, your healthiest, your most vibrant, your most passionate. So Dani, thank you for being here, and can you share a little bit about what brought you to this space of helping other people heal.
Dani 0:39
Thank you for having me. I'm really excited and nervous to be here, but I really want to spread the word on health and healing and everything that we're capable of, because that's what brought me here. I, in the past, did not realize at all what I was capable of, or what was even like we were talking about, what the ceiling of health and wellness and happiness could actually be for a long time like, my background is not at all in healthcare or in wellness or anything. My background is actually in business and marketing. But for a long time I didn't feel well myself, basically since I was a teenager. And I remember going to the doctors when I was younger and and my doctor saying, Well, you know, that's normal. And I'm, I'm sitting there thinking, like, I'm 16 years old. Why am I so tired? And like, why don't I have the energy for this and that? And I didn't know better at the time to question those things, and so I just listened to what doctor said, and I was like, Alright, I guess there's nothing wrong with me. But at time, kept going on and on and on. I was like, I just, I don't feel well, though, and I know that I don't feel the way that I'm supposed to be. And so I started going to more doctors and trying to find more answers. But honestly, the more I tried to seek answers, the more confusing it got, and it shifted from just physical ailments to more mental and emotional as well, because I started to feel crazy. You know, some doctors will say maybe it's just in your head. And so I started believing that, and that turned into depression and anxiety and just confusion in my own identity and what was going on in my own body. And I kind of gave up for a while just thinking, like, Alright, there's nothing wrong with me. Everybody just feels like this. And I would look around and everybody is sick and tired and unhappy and stressed, and, you know, you hear it's just the way of the world, it's just what's going on these days. But I don't know, there was something that just quietly kept tugging at me to find the answer to things. And so what actually started my journey was more of the mental and emotional stuff. I started to say, you know, I don't want to be depressed, I don't want to feel overwhelmed, I don't want to be anxious, and so I just started to explore different things. And I don't know it's kind of a crisscross journey, because I met people, I read certain things, and like one thing led to another, to another, to another. And I kind of started dipping into alternative therapies and spirituality. I took basically every course and read every book under the sun. I was just trying to learn more and more, and I've kind of became obsessed. I just rabbit hole down a million different things. But honestly, it started changing my life from the inside out, and I was just, I don't know. I was dumbfounded, because I didn't realize how good it could actually get. And then through all of that, I just started having conversations about my physical health again, and doing my own research and starting to advocate for myself. And finally, found the right healers for me, and I got the right kind of testing done holistically, and found out that I did indeed. I always thought that I had a thyroid disorder, but I did actually have an autoimmune condition of Hashimotos, and that was very I guess I could say, the duality in finding that diagnosis was very strong. I was happy to finally have answers and to not feel like I was crazy, but very intimidated by what that all meant, because my doctor called, and I found this to be very disheartening, but he called and said, Okay, we're gonna put you on medicine. And I was like, well, for what? Oh, you have Hashimotos. Okay. Well, how long am I gonna be on this medicine for? You know, the rest of your life? Well, hold on, we're not gonna have a discussion about this like I don't I'm not comfortable taking medication forever. I kind of want to know what's going on in my body. Is there any other avenue I can go down? And everything I kept hearing was just no no. Just take this medicine. So I guess, long story short, I decided not to do that. I found a lot of alternative therapies, a lot of holistic healers. I started taking herbal remedies and things like that. I changed my lifestyle. I changed the way I ate. I worked a lot on my stress and emotional health, and just throughout that journey, I realized that this is what I'm passionate about, because it helped me. And if it can help me, it can help other people.
Laura 4:56
Absolutely and I'm so grateful that you're sharing your. Story, because it sounds very, very similar to mine as well. I was diagnosed with hashish as well. And addition to all sorts of other things, common variable immunodeficiency, dysautonomia, you name it, after, I had sepsis, and it is wild. How much is available to us that we didn't realize, like when we go through this journey to heal physically, so much else gets healed. And I'm celebrating you for looking at the alternative pathways and not just saying, Okay, I'll take this medication, because that's what happens. They just try to throw all these medications at you. And I know on my journey, they told me to just apply for disability. I was just going to keep getting worse. And now I'm more vibrant, healthy, strong, fit and than I've ever been in my life, and it's amazing. Yeah, it's absolutely amazing. And I felt the same way. I just felt like, wow, this is available to us. And as a therapist for over 20 years, looking at people going through cycles, whether it's mental health diagnosis you've been given, or physical health of just continuing to hit their heads against the wall, even though we've tried all the modalities, all the programs, all the treatments, etc, and the answer is not outside of us. The answer is inside of us. And really being able to look at, like you said, holistic layers of being, every single layer of who we are, physical, mental, emotional, energetic, spiritual, and bringing them all together, because they all work together. And that piece where you said you want to really open up this vision for people of what is available to them, like there's so much more, and that's the thing. I considered myself a very happy, balanced, healthy, successful person. Prior to being diagnosed with this illness, I didn't realize how much happier I could be, how much more vibrant I could be, how much more adventurous I could be. And I love that you're inviting people into that too. And I think that it's important for us to be a voice with our stories, because that's what people connect to. And it takes years, sometimes decades, for people to identify what's going on with them, and that's like you said you're waiting for the diagnosis because it validates what you've been going through, but also, like, I'm not the diagnosis. Like, that's not who I am. So Exactly, yeah, it's like this temporary security blanket until you're able to figure out what you need to figure out for you and step into your highest health and happiness.
Dani 7:25
Yeah, I love that, and it really is a security blanket for a little bit, because I at the beginning of my journey, I think I kind of hid behind it in ways that I didn't even understand, you know, thinking, Well, I'm not going to even try to feel better, because I already have all the cards stacked against me. So I just didn't do the things that I should do, because I felt like I had just this albatross hanging around my neck going, well, there's nowhere for me to go, so I guess I'll just sit here in my misery. But it is funny, and what you said about how everything is linked together. I mean, I was doing a lot of these things just to feel better emotionally, but then when my physical ailments started to subside. And the same thing you work on your physical body, and then Emotionally, I start feeling better, and then all of a sudden I have purpose, and this light inside of me, and I'm really realizing that, you know, my spiritual side is growing, and I finally have that like Spark reignited in me. And it really is just a big circle of when your body feels good, your mind and your soul feel good, and vice versa. That you kind of have to look at things on all of those different levels, which is what I want to help my clients with, because you're never going to feel better physically, if emotionally, you don't believe you can. Or you know deep in your soul, it you don't have that that fire to keep trying and fighting and doing the things for yourself. You know that mine was squashed forever. I felt like, you know, I'm just kind of going through life on autopilot, and I think that many of us do.
Laura 8:49
I think that's what it is. I think that we allow ourselves to get squashed because we don't know any different. Just like you said you were 16, you're like, all right, dude, you've been to medical school, like, I guess I'll listen to what you're talking about, because you clearly know better than I do, and we don't know this. And then our voice gets squashed, and then our those intuitive nudges of but wait, I know something's wrong. It gets squashed, you know? And then our physical bodies actually feel squashed down. We feel sluggish, we feel tired, we don't feel fully like ourselves. And really, what we're meant to do is open all of this into this passion of our soul, this passion of our energy and who we are. And I really feel like a lot of chronic illness is just this very depressed state for the vast majority of people. And I think it's a state that's very interlaced with people pleasing and accommodation of other people and society and what we are supposed to do. And it's reclaiming ourselves to recover. Really, it's reclaiming ourselves on all levels.
Dani 9:48
Yeah, it really is. And that the emotional aspect of that, it's like not to speak ill at all about doctors. I think everybody has a purpose. It's just that they're very tunnel vision on, you know. We're talking about your physical health here, so they're not really addressing that mental and emotional aspect. And if you're misdiagnosed or you don't have a diagnosis, you almost feel gaslit like, Okay, well now I can't trust anything that I'm telling myself or I'm feeling in my body, because, like you said, this person who went to school for this, and they obviously know way more about my own body and health than I do, which now I know is crazy, you know, we we always know more about our own bodies. Nobody else is going to ever be able to tell us more about ourselves than ourselves. But I didn't know that for the longest time. And so it really was just this cycle of like, well, I don't feel well physically. Everybody's telling me that. That's, you know, in my head, okay, well, now I'm really depressed and, well, what's the point of any of this? Is, and it kind of just circles from there. And I think that when you're like that for a long time, you don't even realize that it's happening. It's kind of like when you gain weight slowly, like when you start to slip into depression or anxiety or overwhelm and burn out slowly that you don't even remember who you used to be. So that's where, like, your baseline changes, and the ceiling changes too, and it's, it is very it's almost like you're in like an illusion, where you think, well, I felt like this forever. This is who I am now, like this is what I remember, is I can get to maybe level two, but I didn't even remember that level 500 exists anymore. And I think that that was really what was propelling me towards starting a business, even though it's terrifying and I feel like an imposter, because, I mean, with auto immunity, I flare ups and things all the time. Still, it's not like I made it to the finish line and I'm perfect and I'm never going to go through anything ever again. But I know now that when I do have a flare up I don't feel well, I know that there is light at the end of the tunnel even if I don't feel well, and that's what I'm just trying to provide for people to be kind of that beacon. That beacon of light, like there is light at the end of the tunnel. It's you just need your a cheerleader by your side to say, like, you can do this and it's not as bad as you think it's going to be forever, and somebody believes you, somebody can see you and hear you and understand exactly what you're going through. Like, that's just all I want to be for people I love that it’s that safe space.
Laura 11:59
It's like, this is a space where you can just be all of you, and like you said, to have that vision of, I know you're going to be okay, like, I know you're going to be able to move through this, and also to recognize the value in this time, when we might be flaring or not feeling great that this is your time to be in space, to with yourself, to be in space with getting to know all of these layers of you, hearing your soul speak more clearly because you're disconnected from all the noise out there. I always say I feel like everybody should experience brain fog from time to time, because I'm like, if you have brain fog, it takes away this, this filter of the mind that tries to come in and chat all the time and just say, Okay, I'm gonna refute this. I'm gonna refute that. I'm gonna and it's like, well, maybe we should all just, like, hit our heads, like, go into this like, foggy space for a period of time and just let our soul speak, like shut up the mind for a period of time, because it's hard to do that when you've been going on autopilot, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, at a pace for your entire life, and when you finally get the chance to lay back, and by the way, why do we wait until we get to this point to listen to ourselves, to reconnect to ourselves? And that's one of the reasons that I know I've that I know I've been motivated to get into this work and share it with other people too. Is like do you don't have to wait for permission from your body to open up to your soul, meaning you have to crash in order for this to to invite you into all that you are. Right? Let's start to recognize these signals and what's being communicated to you before you develop symptoms.
Dani 13:46
Yeah, it's so true, and I think a lot of people feel that, and they hear that quiet whisper in them that there's something else. But exactly what you just said, that our minds are so dang loud that they just overpower everything. It's like our mind and fear screams and our soul and our gut whispers, and you have to quiet that mind down a bit to be able to hear it. It's not because it's better or more important or right, it's just that that's what's been so loud, and that's what you've been tuned into for so long that, like we identify so much with what our mind chatter is saying, that we kind of get disconnected from our bodies and from our our heart and our soul. And when you're that disconnected, of course, you're not going to be able to hear the truth. You're just hearing what the mind is telling you. And unfortunately, that is like coming through a filter of what other people have said, or what you're seeing on the outside of you and everything like that. And I think that's where that ceiling comes from. Is really the mind chatter.
Laura 14:40
Absolutely. It's like that book, The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks. For those of you who have not read it, it's phenomenal, because he talks about the upper limit problem where it's like we're starting to to feel better, or move into that next level of ourselves, and then we either get sick or we have guilt, or we get anxious, we have panic attacks or whatever. And it's really just our bodies, our subconscious minds. Fighting back against what we're stepping into, and being like, no, you've hit your limit of what you can handle. Not it's time to stay here. We got to stay in control. It's like, actually, we get to bust through the glass ceiling, and we get to do that at a pace that feels good for us, and we get to do that in a way that feels good for us. And when we get to listen to our bodies, when they're really calm and regulated, then we can really feel what our pathway is. I remember the first time that I received Reiki healing, and for those of you who have not received Reiki, I really invite you to just go book something with somebody that is recommended to you, because it when I did this, I felt the deepest, most profound level of love that I have ever felt in my life, and my body relaxed so much. And that was like my opening to all of this stuff was, you know, after just meditation every day and realizing that when I didn't do that, I didn't feel as well, then Reiki was like, Oh, wow, look, look what is available to me. Holy crap. I've never felt love like this. And when you get to rest in that and feel safely held in that. That's when your heart can open, that's where your vision becomes clearer,
Dani 16:07
yeah, for sure. And it's funny that you mentioned Reiki, because I didn't talk about that at the beginning. But a lot of this journey started when I'm attuned in Reiki. I'm a Reiki master teacher, and I got into it just very randomly honestly. And I never did this to do it professionally, but kind of for myself for self healing. But exactly what you said once I started the attunement process, and I started to utilize Reiki on myself for healing, and I felt that unconditional love in the depths of my heart and soul, and it kind of blew my mind, honestly with which is a funny thing to say, because my mind has nothing to do with it, but it opened up my world to what was going on inside of me, where I didn't realize how much I was only identifying with that mind chatter. I realized there was a whole other world going on, and that was completely fascinating to me. So I went down the rabbit hole with that as well. But my background originally was a bit more psychology leaning. That's what I minored in in college, and I'm very much into that, but and then I started to learn about holistic health, and I ended up getting certified in Integrative Nutrition. And then I went down another rabbit hole with neuroscience, because exactly what you're saying your subconscious and everything that's going on with, like your mindset and brain rewiring, but I started to see all of these overlaps in, like, what I was learning about in Reiki. So in, like, quantum physics and in energetic healing, there's so much overlap in that. And then in psychology, and then when you learn about what's going on with your reticular activating system in your brain. Like, okay, well, that makes sense, and that relates back to what they say about manifesting with energy. And I just was just dumbfounded by how much overlap there was in all of that, and how combining everything started to just make sense.
Laura 17:56
Yes, absolutely. They all overlap with one another, and sometimes they're the same concept, just with different words, absolutely and I, I love this description of how things open for you, because that's what it felt like when I became a Reiki Master Teacher. Was I just did that for myself, like I didn't have any idea whether I was going to teach people Reiki. I didn't have any idea whether they're going to tune people, it just felt like an attunement that I needed to feel this completion of whatever was going on within my energy at the time, like it felt like it was my expansion. And that's what I encourage you guys to for anybody who's listening to move towards right is like what feels like it's opening, like it lets your shoulders drop, it opens your heart. You can breathe deeper, and it's like, Ah, this feels this feels really, really light, and it feels free, and it feels delicious, and it feels warm and anchoring, all at the same time. And it's when we start to play with that energy that was really the gateway for me. I call Reiki the gateway drug to energy healing, just like we see in marijuana, is the gateway drug to the drug world. I'm like, That's the gateway drug. Because once you get hooked on Reiki and you taste that shit, it's like, oh my gosh, what's next? Okay? Then there's the Emotion Code, then there's Theta Healing, then there's the Akasha records, then there's, like, all of these things. And for me it was, it was the Akashic records that just, you know, did? It was like everything clicked into place for me, but that's different for everybody. And it really doesn't matter, because it's all the same energy. It all comes from the same place. Really, what you're meant to do is, once you feel the opening, play like play with universal energy, play with where you're drawn and what feels good, because you're going to find that, that perfect formula, that secret sauce that feels most like you.
Dani 19:44
Yeah, and Reiki really is like, I love that you said gateway drug, because it really is like that it gives you a glimpse at what's possible. And while it doesn't necessarily just put you into, you know, this euphoric state for the rest of your life, but when you feel it, you know it exists, and you can get back there and you want to give. Back there as often as possible. And so in that sense, I feel like everybody should definitely get Reiki. It can heal you on every level, but just to get that glimpse of what is possible for you and how expansive and big your own internal universe is, I think everybody needs to know that to be able to believe it well.
Laura 20:15
And you know, we talk about how we know that trauma is stored within the body. It's stored within ourselves. It's stored within stored within our tissues. It's stored within our energy, the brain, you name it, we could make a list a mile long, and the same thing goes for energetic memory, that when you are going into Reiki, and you're receiving that sensation, and you are receiving this love, and you can feel it through your entire body, and you're like, ah, your body is creating a memory. Your mind is creating a memory. Your energy is creating a memory that you can call forward just as easily as you call forward, or your brain automatically calls forward traumatic memory or painful energy that has stayed within your field, or memories that have taken you back to childhood when somebody said something to you and all of a sudden your mindset shifted right, like the same memories can be stored when you are receiving Reiki, and those are the ones or any kind of energy healing, because those are the ones that we want you to store more often, that we want you to expose yourself to, more often, to choose more often, to be able To tell your brain, because your brain and your nervous system learn through repetition. This is my new version of myself. This is what I'm claiming now, this is what I'm choosing now. I'm choosing to feel good. I'm choosing the love. I'm choosing to receive all that's available to me, and not what I've just been handed or what I've felt stuck in.
Dani 21:38
Yes, and I love that you keep saying choose, because it took me a very long time to even realize that this was all a choice. You know, I was in that victim mentality of like, well, you play the hand that you're dealt. Like, well, yeah, you can, but you also can just put that hand down and pick up a new one and direct your entire life yourself. And with that realization, again, that duality of like, wow, this is amazing, but also, oh, my God, wait, I created this whole mess. Okay, but that means that I can uncreate it, and I can create something different. So you do, you know, with that power comes responsibility, but to realize that the power really is in you, and it always has been in you, is the best thing, I think that I've learned on this entire journey.
Laura 22:20
Yeah, I like that concept of shifting responsibility into power, because it really does feel I remember when just after I had sepsis, I had been working with a therapist at the time, and she looked at me and she was just like, yeah, why do you think that you created this, that your soul created this in your field? And I was like, Excuse me, like I didn't create that. I was like, so pissed, so defensive. I didn't say anything to her, but I was like, Dude, I didn't create this grateful because she planted that seed for me, right to to allow that opening, to come forward, to recognize that there was an aspect of my subconscious mind, of my energy, that was invested in being ill. There was an aspect of me that was invested in that, and I got to choose differently. And at first it felt like the responsibility was being placed on a meaning that I was being blamed for this, and I went into this shame space, and I'm like, Nah, can we look at responsibility differently where it's actually no, it's not like it's on me and I'm alone in this and I've got to fix it, or else it's I actually have the power to create whatever I want, and I don't have to do it instantly. I mean, I could if I wanted, but the physical body also gets to a certain place over a number of years. Let's be patient with ourselves. Let's give ourselves grace for what we've done in the past and choices we've made. And it's like you when you know better, you do better. And it's like now I know and I can't unsee it, so I'm moving forward differently, and I'm claiming who I desire to be. Now. I'm going to be patient with myself as I get go through that. And that's one of the things I say all the time, is I feel like this pathway is one of the biggest lessons is patience. Humans are so freaking impatient. And I'm like, we could just be patient with ourselves, things would unfold so much more smoothly and actually so much more quickly.
Dani 24:13
Yeah, and it’s true, and patience is a difficult thing, and it's something that you have to have in every moment. You know you're not just patient once. You're patient every single second of every day, especially when you're working towards a goal, or trying to feel better, healing, anything like that at all, but it really is exactly what you're saying, that shame and blame cycle. I feel like that is so huge, and I it's something that I'm trying to normalize through my work in general, too, because that feeling doesn't mean there is something wrong with you, it just means that that's how you're internalizing it. And I think sometimes we feel that, like, you know, I tell my clients or people telling you I know that I cause this. It's like, yes, but that's not because you're broken or you're never going to be able to feel any better. It's because you're a human being having a human exercise. Experience, and that's what we're all doing. You know, that's happening to every single one of us, and realizing that, and being able to take that and spin it into the positive, and to realize that realization is part of the journey, not like a stop sign, that that means Okay, now we can move forward and that life doesn't end when you realize these things, it's when it really begins. I mean, I just turned 40 a couple of weeks ago, and I feel better now than I did when I was 16, going to the doctors. And if you told me back then, like I thought that it was all downhill from there, you know, okay, this is the best I'm going to ever going to feel like, no, the best is yet to come. And when you step on this path, and you go on this journey, like there really is no ceiling at all. I look at photos of myself in my 20s, I remember how I used to feel. It's like, My God, my life didn't stop. Then when I realized I was sick, it started, and everything is way better. Now more I feel more energetic. I feel happier emotionally. I feel more fulfilled. I just feel the depth of my heart and soul like there are no depths. Honestly, I just keep digging in further and further inside of myself and finding and discovering more that like, honestly, it's such a bigger and more beautiful journey than I ever would have imagined it to be.
Laura 26:15
I completely agree it is the most phenomenal, liberating, delicious experience. I've never been more confident. I've never been happier with who I am, more in love with who I am. And I remember when I was kind of in that transition point where I was still really not feeling great physically, and still having flares and where I am now, and at that time, I remember feeling crappy and kind of being in the messiness and still knowing what you just said, The best is yet to come. So when we talk about choosing, it doesn't mean well, I have to immediately jump to I can choose that I'm going to be fully healthy. You can actually choose that. But if you don't feel ready to choose that yet, then just choose, well, yeah, I know that I'm where I am right now, but I'm also going to know that the best is yet to come, right? There's at least a light there. I know that things are shifting. I know that things are always in motion, you know? And so I don't want you to put pressure on yourself. I don't want that to feel like pressure. I want it to feel like pick a choice that feels relaxing, that feels opening, that feels like, yeah, I can get behind this right now that isn't right in where you are when you're feeling stuck.
Dani 27:25
Exactly. And that is like what people believe that they're capable of shifts as well. And I think once you start to feel better and you experience that, that will start to expand, too. And it's funny, like before we started recording, when we were talking about how I didn't know if I needed to choose either healing or coaching. And I think that that is because of my own personal journey. You know, when I first started, I was just trying to heal, you know, back then, I was just thinking, I just, I just got to get to, like, a neutral place here, like I would see people talking about growth and evolution. I'm that's not for me, like I'm so far below that that I just want to feel like a normal person. But okay, so then when I started on my healing path, then I started feeling better. It's like, okay, wait now. I do want to evolve. I want to grow further and further. And that's what I find with a lot of my clients, too, that well, people will come to me to heal for either stress or burnout or chronic illness or just to lose weight, whatever they are looking at thinking like I just, you know, I just want to feel like a normal person. I just want to feel like myself again and this and that, and then when they do and they realize that there's even more, then they come back to work with me. Okay, well, now I want to grow. Now. I want to grow in my life and health and career and business and things like that, because now I know what's possible out there, and I think that is, like, such a huge path for people to step on that, like, we don't need to just feel okay. You know, that's not the goal here. The goal is to feel great and amazing. And that doesn't always mean that every single day is is good, but the depth of what we can feel and how we can feel, it just keeps expanding more and more and more. And so that's kind of what I want to try to offer to people that, you know I meet, people where they're at and if you haven't felt good for years and years and years, obviously, we're not sitting here talking about growing and evolving. It's like the Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Your basic needs need to be met first, you know, you need to be feel safe and pain free in your body, and getting good sleep and eating well and moving well and things like that. Like, we're not going to talk about self actualization when you can barely get a night good night's sleep because your back's bothering you and your digestion is off, and things like that. But once people start to feel good and they have a good baseline, then it's like, Okay, what's next? All right, what's next? Well, how far can we go? And it's like, I love to work with people like that, and to see that shift from I just want to, like, be able to wake up in the morning and not feel exhausted, to I am ready to, like, skip down the road into my dream life. It's amazing to watch, actually, how quickly that can change too. Because even for myself, I the old version of me, whatever would have believed in any of that kind of stuff. But this. Shift that happened once i i felt that momentum in me growing. Oh, my goodness, I'm starting to feel better. Well, okay, let's see how good this can freaking get.
Laura 30:08
Absolutely, and I love that you talked about momentum. We'll, we'll end on that. Because I feel like that was something that helped me so much when I was first recovering physically, was like, Okay, well, if I can get a shower today. I'll be so grateful if I can walk to the mailbox and back without collapsing. I'll be so grateful. And it's like, what are those steps that and those to me, I look at it now and they seem like the the tiniest baby steps, right? But those needed, I needed to feel those wins in order to feel that momentum of like, oh, wow, yes, okay, I'm alive. I didn't fall on my face, you know what I mean, like? And then that allows you to stretch. It shows you that your body can stretch your mind, can stretch your heart, can stretch your soul, can stretch into that next level of of where you're inviting yourself, of where you're being invited by the universe, by your body, and so give yourself a little bit of that stretch past the envelope that you think you can go, that you think you can't go past. And this is where having a mentor in your pocket is very helpful, because, like Danny was saying, to have a cheerleader and that reminder of you can do this, you can do this, I promise you're not going to die, right? Like we can take another step here, we can take another step here, and we're not going to go at a pace that breaks you, and we're going to attend to all of you, I promise. And and it's really beautiful that you're you're bringing that offering into the world, and that you're sharing your story. And thank you so much for being here and just opening Yeah, and just like offering people some places to begin, right, we gave you guys some tools today to start to play with. You can reach out to either of us to ask any questions that come forward from this episode, and we will talk to you very, very soon. Have a beautiful day. Bye for now.
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