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Jenna 0:25
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Laura 0:40
and I'm Laura Mazzotta, an Akashic therapist. Sit back, relax, and receive as new insights enter your awareness during these illuminating conversations. Welcome back to another episode of Divinely Grounded. Today we're going to talk about being mirrors for one another, because I love how we can be in conscious relationship or conscious community and feel the reflection of other people and allow ourselves to come into space with, okay, I know that there's an aspect of this person within myself, an aspect of me within them, if we are all one, and so we can come into a meeting point with this aspect of self that's coming forward to be seen and met, and I think it's a beautiful practice. It feels like parts work, like internal family systems to me, and I also think it can be a trap, and I think it's something that we get very easily trapped in. I was actually having a conversation with another client this morning who was talking about a situation in which she is experiencing some dissonance with another person at work and she was like, you know, I know that there, she, there's a part of her that's reminding me of a previous version of myself, and X, Y, and Z, and I was like, okay, like, I get it, and I don't disagree with you, I actually think that's accurate, but we don't have to go back and say, like, okay, what part of me needs to be healed, is this part of me need to be to speak, we need to say, yes, there's a previous version of myself that is here, and, and I get to be like, okay, previous self and human, this is where we are now, this is who I am now, this is what I embody now, this is the wisdom I have now, and this is what I desire to share as it moves through me now, because I think we can live so much in this excavating space of, like, okay, this is everything's a mirror, and I feel like when we do this, we take over responsibility for what other people have in their fields as well. It's like, do I want to take responsibility for meeting this aspect of myself right now, or do I want to give space for this person to meet with that aspect, and yes, both can exist, and I get to be in movement with what I have chosen to be now, what I am now, because I already trust and know that I have met that part of myself, and if I meant to, spirit will lead me there.
Jenna 3:20
Episode done. I agree. I think it's a lot. A lot of this is like, you don't.. when this shows up in your field, it's like I don't have to immediately be like, why is this showing up for me again? What did I do wrong? Like, why is this presenting? Like, it's that type of spiraling thing. Like, you don't have to do that. What if it's showing up for you to be the positive reflection for them? What if it's, yeah, what if it's showing up for you to see your strength, to see how much you've changed, and to be an appreciation and celebration of that. And then to reflect back to them, so that they can see how they can change.
Laura 3:59
Thank you. Because you know what you just brought forward is that this aspect of oh I'm always looking at the previous version of myself or the aspect of me that's coming forward can be a distraction technique from claiming your authority and your leadership it as influencing that space and your service and your service like dude the divine brought your light into this experience for a reason. Don't keep looking backwards. And again, like, I'm not saying that there's never a place for this, but what I'm saying is that, especially if you're listening to this episode and you're still listening to this episode, you are someone who is here to influence the rooms you step into, and it is so important for you to recognize when you are distracting yourself from owning that fact, because I think sometimes we can shy away, because it's like in this conversation I was having with this person, well, this was a work thing, and I'm not in a role to be to be guiding, mentoring her. Or she's not in a role to be mentoring me or whatever, and it's like, yes, this is what I'm talking about. You are a leader of a new way of doing things on this plane. We do not operate in roles with edges, we operate as light beings that are bringing in this energy from the divine to illuminate a room and to simply speak truth. I'm not bossing you around and telling you what to do. I'm speaking the truth that comes through me here based on my natural response, because I trust what's coming through me, because I trust my connection, I trust my intention. And when we do that, we are actually sharing the codes that invite other people into interacting in new ways as well, rather than deferring to well, that's not my place, or that's not my this, or that's not my that.
Jenna 5:54
Yeah, because that's exactly your place,
Laura 5:56
right? Like, it is my place to be in greater integrity to the divine than I am like the prescribed role that's been handed to me for a temporary period of time within this lifetime by who, who decides that now. This doesn't mean I'm going to like go rogue and run naked in the break room, okay? But it means that, like, you know, I am going to be all of me, if somebody is coming into exchange with me, and, and is desiring a response, I am going to answer as I am guided, and as I feel full and whole and truthful.
Jenna 6:39
Yeah, your service doesn't fit into a corporate hierarchy, and I had to learn that here, even when I am a quote unquote boss in my space. I mean, with, with who's above me, I've stepped into that leadership role big time,
Laura 6:58
big time,
Jenna 7:00
and that was uncomfortable at first, but it's like, no, I'm here to reflect back to her, and she's reflecting back to me in a good way. This isn't showing me anything that I need to subconsciously dig into, or, or worry about. It's showing me where I can grow, where I can evolve, where I can lead better.
Laura 7:22
This is the point of being human, because we are here to unfold, expand within the space of relationship with ourselves, our physical bodies, and other people. We are meant to co-regulate on this planet, we're meant to come into that, and so when you're in a room with somebody and they approach you, I don't care what anybody's prescribed rules are, you are in a relationship with another human being. In that moment, there has been a soul contracted discussion or space between, and you are meant to be what and who you are, and so are they.
Jenna 8:06
You get to make that a choice point.
Laura 8:09
Yeah, you do. A choice point. Are you going to illuminate the room? Are you going to look at what's being reflected, so that you can continue to climb the ladder of self improvement, like I'm not here to climb the ladder of self improvement. I'm here to come into presence with what is and what is moving through me, and a natural, beautiful byproduct of that is my self improvement, but chasing and forcing that through the reflections of others. I think that if you, you know, have multiple conversations or multiple engagements that feel like, okay, this pattern keeps coming up, all right, let's be with it. How is this serving me? What is this offering me? And sometimes, like you and I had a conversation last night about this, when I was bringing through something that I was like, okay, this pattern's showing up like what I'm obviously creating this for a reason, like my subconscious, my energy is creating this for a reason. So, like, what is there for me to see within this? What is there for me to learn within this? And it was really more less about what do I need to fix and heal and more about where do I need to see and recognize myself more for what and who I am
Jenna 9:23
correct,
Laura 9:24
and that
Jenna 9:25
wanted to slap the shit out of you with
Laura 9:26
huge for me, though it was so helpful, because it was like, and thank you for the 12th time, because it was so beautiful and helpful, and like, oh, like a relaxation into me, right, where it's like, and it doesn't mean, oh, I get to advocate responsibility. No, it's actually me taking responsibility for recognizing myself for who and what I am, and what I'm here to do, and how that impacts people sometimes in a way that can agitate them, right? But it's, but it's being able to use if. You're going to use the mirror to look at aspects of self. Also, use the mirror to look at where you've grown, what you are, who you are, and how you are meant to illuminate, and how illuminated you already are in the space that you're in.
Jenna 10:18
Oh,
Laura 10:19
I think that's one of the biggest pieces to take from this episode. If you're gonna use the mirror, use it holistically, use it to witness your brilliance, use it to witness your openness, your progress, your beauty, your strength, your influence.
Jenna 10:39
That feels really good in my body,
Laura 10:41
yeah. And this is how we can expand with greater grace for ourselves and with one another, like with you reflecting that to me. I was just like, it just.. it was such a soft and compassionate and beautiful reflection that I not just felt within myself but in relationship with you, right, like it's just such a graceful way to invite each other forward, so that's the other thing I will say is that when you're in relationship with other people, allow the mirror to reflect their progress, so that you're seeing that and reflecting that to them too, like, can you see that in them as well, instead of, like, oh, their inner child is doing its thing right now. Here we go. We all have room to be able to say, like, where is this person shining right now, and focus on their shining, and and reflect that back, and they might not be able to receive that in the moment, and that happens when we're activated in our nervous systems, or emotionally, right? And that's okay. You get to stay within, just like you stay within this knowing of who you are, and the illumination and the light you're meant to bring to the room. You get to stay in the conviction of what you see illuminated in other people, regardless of how they receive it, regardless of how much they say, yeah, that's not true, or they have evidence to the contrary, or they reject it at the time. Okay, I still choose to see you, and know that I see you exactly as you fully are, that's how we hold the light for other people to expand.
Jenna 12:25
It invites such a softness,
Laura 12:27
it does, and not at the bypassing of ourselves. And I think that's a really important thing to say, because I think sometimes we can try so hard, and try is a key word there to see this illumination in other people that we don't allow ourselves to have our own inner response or attend to our own response within that experience, and so this is not intended to bypass your natural response.
Jenna 12:57
No, you, you enter it with softness and openness, while completely holding your truth.
Laura 13:02
Yes,
Jenna 13:04
it's like what I had said last night, of of softening, but not bending to someone else's reality. It's remaining in your reality and welcoming them into yours. You can be welcomed into theirs, but you don't bend to it. You meet them, and if they don't want to meet you, they don't have to. They can be activated, they can be what, whatever they want to be. But that doesn't change your softness, that doesn't change your intention, that doesn't change what you are reflecting to them.
Laura 13:38
It's like the mirror is reflecting all around, right, and we also get to put the mirror down.
Jenna 13:48
Yeah, like, don't put yourself in like a fun house where everything gets distorted because you're in all these different like fisheye mirrors and all sorts of shit, where you're just like, what the hell is going on? What am I truly saying? What am I trying to see? It's like, no, remove yourself from that. Look at the purity of what is. Receive the purity of what is. A lot of this is about receipt.
Laura 14:14
Yeah, and I like that analogy with the fun house, because it's like when holding up the mirror creates chaos instead of that relaxation in the body, that's when you know there's an energy there that is not matching your purity, and you can use the sensation in your body, because we know what truth feels like when it's you have that aha moment, you're like, oh, yes, okay, that's it, like we know what that feels like, and so it's like when you, we were having this conversation last night, and you were sharing with me, you were reflecting back to me, I, I felt it. My body was like, oh my gosh, yes, that feels like truth, right? That feels like truth. And so it's like, what feels like truth in your body, and if it's not feeling like truth in your body, then either put the mirror down entirely or shift its direction, right? And this can be a helpful way of discerning, is this energy mine? Is this center like, am I, am I taking too much responsibility here, because it's, it's feeling like chaos in my field, and that's not mine. So, is this need to be directed back to the other person, because this is something they're being invited to see within themselves, or is this a scenario where I put the mirror down entirely, and I just allow the unfolding alchemy of the space. Please refer to our previous episode for a discussion on alchemy.
Jenna 15:51
Yeah, I think this is a beautiful practice for conscious relationship too.
Laura 15:55
Yeah,
Jenna 15:57
and how you deal with, not deal with, but how you operate within those reflections,
Laura 16:02
I think that's why you're saying the receipt is so important, like how open are you to receiving the reflections of others in whatever form? That's why I love, and I'll include the link here, that's why I love one of the modules within my self-trust challenge, where I talk about giving and receiving, and there's stages of receiving, and that's one of my favorite modules within that challenge, because it is such a beautiful way of identifying where you can stretch yourself into receiving more.
Jenna 16:38
Yeah, and I think one of the questions you can ask when you're in these spaces of reflection, is when someone's reflecting back to you. Do you feel seen?
Laura 16:48
That's what I was, that's what I was thinking earlier. Thank you so much for saying that, because it's like when you were reflecting back to me last night, it wasn't just, oh, that feels like truth in my body, but I also felt this like deeply held, like relief in my human of I feel so seen in a way that I was not seeing myself in that moment, and that's the beauty of mirroring, and it's not always mirroring, is not always this concept of something comes up and I have to go backwards and look at what part of me is coming forward because of this and heal it and fix it and do something with it and sit with it and that's what this episode is here to share with you is the different types of mirroring and the ways that mirroring can expand us in a way that feels more graceful that meets us more and who we've become and where we're going and the divine service that is being delivered through us at this time. So, thank you so much for joining us, and let us know if you have any questions, comments, or beauty tips. See you next time. Bye.
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