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Laura 0:40
and I'm Laura mazzotta, an Akashic therapist. Sit back, relax and receive as new insights enter your awareness during these illuminating conversations. Welcome to another episode of divinely grounded today. We are talking about being wild because I have been channeling the island of Kauai lately, not only because it's really sacred land that calls to me on the regular but because Jenna and I are hosting retreat there in October 2026 and the energy that keeps coming forward is wild. And so I wanted to record this together, because one of the words that Jenna and I were talking about, I don't know, a couple weeks ago, I think, was feral. And I said, what comes up in your body when you hear the word feral? And she was like, Let's go like she didn't have any issue with this energy. And I was like, oh, for me, it like gives me a little chills. It stretches me a little bit. I'm a little it feels a little edgy. So I would love to know what comes forward for you around this concept, frequency of feral Wilds.
Jenna 2:01
It feels good. It just makes me smile. Why? Because it feels like an automatic shedding. It feels like what we were just talking about. It feels like not brushing your teeth. It feels,
Laura 2:15
I don't know if I brushed my teeth today, you guys, I can't remember,
Jenna 2:21
but it's like getting rid of any conditioning that you have within your human like, immediately it just strips away. And it's doing all the childlike things that you had in your body before you stopped yourself with your mind. So it's like, I don't know, dancing whenever you want to, like playing in the rain, all of those like silly little things that you stop yourself from because you wonder what somebody's thinking about you, or you wonder if you should really be doing that because you need to go be doing something else.
Laura 2:53
I think this means you're just in really beautiful relationship with your inner child. Am I? That's what that means. Because for me, when I feel this energy, it's like feels stretchy, because this wild energy, when I think about the island of Kauai, which is the context in which this came up. So I'm going to use this as like a gateway into this this conversation is it feels like natural essence. It feels like pure essence, like you said, without the conditioning, without the stories, without the attachments of the human. Yes, that makes a lot of sense. So it does. It feels like just, oh, natural. And I love that feeling. And then there's also, it's so clear, the conditioning that pulls at me that's also like, yes, and you have three children, and you need to be responsible, and you need to make sure that X, Y and Z, even if I don't have something to fill that in, like there's a you need to make sure that's there. And so it helps me recognize where I still have edges, and it helps me recognize where those get to dissolve into an even pure embodiment of my natural energy, my soul, and it feels a little rebellious. That's the thing. This wild energy feels a little rebellious, which is wild because, because it's natural. It's like our natural essence, and like, like I was saying with the island of Kauai, it's like, they're like killing wild boar with spears in the in the woods there, you know, the the island of Kauai is the most what a plug, right? It's the most untouched of any of the Hawaiian Islands. It has every landscape you can think of, the edges of the um. Coastline are some of the roughest in the entire world. It's it's jagged, it's rugged, it's beautiful, it's lush, it's full, it's nourishing, like it's all of these things. And so it, it encompasses all of the elements so beautifully and all of like, this natural essence of what we are, but also what the planet is, as well, with being less touched by the conditioning of human beings. And so I love connecting to that and like soaking it into my bones, soaking it into my cells, like it just becomes a part of you. And that's why I always say like, that space or that place, when I go there cracks me open. It always cracks me open even further, and reminds me of this natural self, like I've always said, like, I want to just be naked playing sound bowls on the beaches of Kauai. Like, that's, that's my definition of wild. Oh, wow, so crazy. Don't get too crazy now, Laura, but funny, funny enough. Like, even if that might seem rebellious, some people like that. I'm totally comfortable with that.
Jenna 6:11
Yeah, you don't feel the edge there.
Laura 6:13
I don't feel an edge there at all. I can sit there completely naked on the Beach in Kauai, playing singing bowls and feel absolutely zero self consciousness. So I guess what we're asking is, what, how do you define wild like? What does that actually look like for you? Because I think that would make you uncomfortable based on your face.
Jenna 6:39
No, what I'm trying to No, no. So what I'm trying to wrap my head around is, where's your edge? Then what makes you feel tight when you think about wild then, like, I know you said it's like there's a level of responsibility there, but then you bring in something that feels wild to you, and you feel totally settled within.
Laura 6:57
It Fascinating, right?
Jenna 7:00
And I think it's because there's so much freedom within what you just brought through.
Laura 7:07
It's the freedom. Because for me, it's like, wait, I can do anything I want, whenever I want. I can flow entirely based on my intuition, like I can fly flow entirely based on my intuition, wherever I choose to go at the time. And if I decide to drop everything and just start to chant, it's like, yeah, let's fucking go. Like I want to be part of a community that just does that. Hence the Kawhi retreat, right? We can just drop anything and just move as we are being moved. And so for me, I think the reason that feels edgy is because it's like, well, you have to get your kids to school by this time, and you have to make sure that you make this meeting, and you have to make sure you know what I'm saying, like the structures that we have in place to operate in society, to make money, to keep our appointments, to keep our appointments, to keep integrity as a business owner, these kinds of things. Do you know what I'm saying?
Jenna 8:06
Yes. So how do we bring in that frequency into everyday life, to where you always feel free
Laura 8:13
move to Kauai. I mean, it's on the list.
Jenna 8:18
Solid answer
Laura 8:22
Abandon my children.
Jenna 8:24
No, this is going the wrong direction.
Laura 8:30
It's connecting to the frequency it's and I already do this right, like I already step into my that my edges more and more I was actually, actually at a wake the other day, and I was very animated in a conversation shocker, and one of my husband's cousins was like, What did you feed her? Like, what did you and I said, Oh, no, I'm just becoming more and more of myself, which is unfortunate for all of those around me, because that's exactly it, right, is continuing to lean into those edges of all of me that used to be called too much when I was a kid, right? And that used to be and what would be considered too much for the probably highfalutin corporate, corporate world, because my definition of professionalism is very different from how it might be defined in that arena. And so it can feel a bit uncouth, yet to me, it's raw.
Jenna 9:35
I think it’s that the conditioning doesn't matter. I think that that's what we have to lean into, to shed that that feeling of restriction, or, you know, to bring in that frequency of wild. Yes, you can connect to different lands and things like that. But it's also, I think it's shedding the conditioning and in the way of it doesn't matter. Like you get to choose it, right? If you want to be in that, be in that. But at the same time, it's knowing that your responsibility isn't it doesn't have to live in conditioning. It gets to be wild itself. It gets to be free itself, right?
Laura 10:18
Well, this is the annoying part. Is that what it does is really show me that those of us who feel this way are meant to lead the way in being in raw leadership, redefining what living raw and wild can feel like and look like in a way that connects us, in a way that allows society to grow and expand and not shut down, because the pleasantries are not mod podging Everything.
Jenna 11:00
So I think it's beautiful that there are places where you can, like Kauai, where you can get in touch with that without having to, I don't know, force yourself into anything. You can just go into the the environment itself, and then bring it back with you.
Laura 11:17
Well, that's what I'm saying, because we create a memory in the body. And like I know that I mean that island is deeply infused within me because I've been there six times, and being able to be there in spiritual community, communing with others who desire the same is an entirely different infusion, right? An entirely different frequency. And I think what people say when they come back from experiences like this is, well, how am I going to go back to normal life? How am I going to go back to my day job? How am I going to, like, wake up at 9am and come home at 5pm and, you know, in my little apartment or whatever, and go about my day? So it's, how can you bring that frequency back? Because I'm talking about leadership and like, pave the way for creating a a shift in frequency in the spaces you occupy, and taking responsibility for that, instead of looking at responsibility with the edges and the expectations and the conditioning and all of this, it's like, what if I shift that distorted sense of responsibility? Because really that is just my subconscious mind distracting me for being in responsibility, for creating a pathway that feels very liberating and raw and real and embodied and whole and pure and wild, and doesn't look conventional, but is wholly effective, efficient, productive, and creates so much deeper, sustainable change.
Jenna 12:58
I like that, and it's you infusing your environment with that wild frequency, with that free frequency, because you're infusing it with you,
Laura 13:10
exactly which also requires more belief and faith in yourself and your impact, and the fact that your embodiment has an impact whether you open your mouth or you don't, because the way that you roll, the way that you flow, the way that you show up, the way that you respond, is infused with the frequency you've chosen to take with you, repeatedly chosen to tap into, and that memory that's been housed in your body, and allowing yourself to lead from that space, prioritizing it. And I think what comes up right now for me with that is combining this with the word sacred and the frequency of sacred. And that's why I'm so excited about the retreat environment, too. I mean, obviously the land itself is very sacred. It's like stepping onto an altar. It's that's what it feels like to me. But I think that sometimes this wild, feral, raw energy can be perceived as dissonant from Sacred, no, not at all. And in fact, it's like, it's like studying Tantra, which is not about sex, by the way. I mean, sure that's part of the practice. It can be part of the practice, but it's really about utilizing this, this raw, pleasurable experience with self and energy and environment to experience source more palpably, and for source to experience itself more palpably. And that's what we do when we get in touch with our raw side. You know, tantra aside, that's what we do when we get in touch with our raw and wild and feral side. Is like, again, that stripping away that you were talking about and just kind of bringing ourselves to spirit and being like this is all of me and especially, especially when our souls have chosen to incarnate in human. Form, and we're in community with other humans. And we're saying this in the presence of other human beings. So we have this CO regulation piece, plus we're in front of spirit, and we're saying, here is all of me, like I offer you, all of me. Awaken me, enliven me. Because being wild is being fully alive and the purest way, and your unique and pure way. And this is another reason I love Hawaii, is because of the sensation that comes forward there. And I'm sure there's other locations that you feel this way about too. There's obviously more sacred lands on this planet than just that space, but this is one of the most sacred that I've ever that I've ever visited, and it's like feeling the sensation of the wind there, feeling the sensation of the air you know, being able to feel the sun on your skin, to breathe in the frequency of the island. Like there's so many senses that come alive. There's aspects of your body. It's one of the only places, in fact, I think it's the only place I've ever been on the planet where I can literally just walk to a certain point on the island and it literally, I can literally feel my heart crack open and I just start to cry, like it just opens me on its own accord. And that's why I love it, because it's like, do we need the land to open us in this way into this frequency. No, we absolutely don't. We can call it in anytime we want. But my God, is it a beautiful tool, and my god is it a beautiful gift that God has given us? Created this planet with a certain frequency, created these created these certain parts of the planet with a certain frequency to assist us in our expansion and our ascension and our self recognition and and our return to purity,
Jenna 16:45
this is making me think of like different philosophy classes I had when I was in college about what is the nature of Man and how we operated without anything else like before, all the societal bullshit before, all the industrial things, and it was the land. And I think that that's a big reason why Kauai is so opening. White lands in general can be so opening and so freeing and feeling that quote, unquote wild feeling, because that is inherently human, and it allows the soul to pierce through, because there is less bullshit in the human when we are more in touch with the natural state of who we are,
Laura 17:41
that's delicious. Because I also feel like, even like the the fruit and the produce that comes from the island is it feels like a cleansing. It feels like a cleansing. I mean, there's just, there's nothing fresher. It's amazing to just feel that cleansing happening and kind of bringing yourself to this state where you connect more with your relationship with land, you know it's an exchange. Before artificial light and all of those things. Women would get their periods on the new moon, and then they would ovulate on the full moon, because the full moon is when we are, like, fully illuminated, lit up like, let's go. Let's take action. Let's move. You're in the spotlight. And the new moon time is when you are meant to rest, go within, nourish yourself, recognize yourself as fertile ground, all of those things. And so now, with it not aligned like that, it can be kind of disturbing to a woman's cycle, because if you're meant to kind of rest during a new moon, and you're meant to rest during your cycle, and they don't match up, it's like, Dude, I have, I have these, like, two weeks a month where I'm feeling like, I really just kind of want to, like, lay around, or I don't want to, like, you know, I'm not really feeling it. I kind of want to go within. And so it is really cool to see how those that natural relationship existed with the universe prior to all of the conditioning that we've done of the land.
Jenna 19:39
Yeah, it's like how your soul wants to receive in purity.
Laura 19:45
Yeah, and I've always been drawn to this. I remember when I was camping when I was younger, and I mean, I used to go to church all the time, but I never felt closer to God than when I was laying on the top of my van, staring at the stars, camping for like two. Hours a night like I felt so connected to God, then more than anywhere else, just that openness, that freedom, and wildly enough, think about the fact that even that, even the universal space we don't feel has a structure because it's just so expansive, but it does. We have constellations, we have solar systems, we have galaxies, right? Like there actually is structure in the natural world, in the natural universe. So it's also remembering that in our wild and free we are still held in the structure of the cosmos and in God's divine design, I agree.
Jenna 20:50
And that settles the nervous system so much too,
Laura 20:55
it does, and that's what I'm saying about the land too, right? Because you go to a place like Hawaii, and it's like you feel, you feel held by the land you do. You feel like you feel held by the ancestry there, the lineage there. You feel held by the different landscapes. You feel infused by them. You feel guided by them. And it's this is what we're meant to do as human beings, like we were meant to incarnate here on this planet, to not just co regulate with one another, but to receive from an offer to the land. And I personally think that we should all visit several places on the planet to be able to to connect to different frequencies and allow ourselves to be opened in this way. So anyway, do you have anything else that you would like to say on this?
Jenna 21:40
I'm excited for Kauai.
Laura 21:43
Yeah this is such a good frequency. And I would love to know in the comments if any of you have a reaction to this concept of being wild and free or feral. Like, what? Tell me how your body reacts to that. Like, what does your body say? Because, like, in my mind, I'm like, let's go, but my body would be like,
Jenna 22:05
it's just so crazy to me. That I just want to start jumping up and down when you say it.
Laura 22:10
That's why I want to have this conversation with you, because you and I had such a different experience with it, and I thought it would be really supportive for people to witness. You know the different ways that this can arrive for us, and like how we can be in presence with whatever this energy is showing us or opening us to so anyway, if you guys have interest in the choir retreat, we will leave the link in the description the show notes, and you can always reach out to us at any time, if you'd like. We'd be happy to jump on a call and chat and get to know you a little better, and thanks so much for listening. We'll see you very soon.
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