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Laura 0:40
and I'm Laura mazzotta, an Akashic therapist. Sit back, relax and receive as new insights enter your awareness during these illuminating conversations. Welcome to divinely grounded episode 14 today, we're talking about body awareness. This came forward because Jenna and I were talking the other day, and she was saying that I've helped her so much with body awareness and that it has she can feel so many changes and so many shifts. And I said, like, what? And she made a very long list, and I was like, Oh, this is so good to show you how much opens when in all aspects of your life, when your body awareness expands, your body consciousness expands. So what do you have to share with us on this?
Jenna 1:37
I think the biggest thing was the shedding of perpetual like mind, shit, narrative, shit, all the shit when you're more in tune with your body, because so much of the energy that you're feeling is energy that just desires to either a be seen or be moved through the movement of your person. So this all started when I started walking more, and I was just exercising more, and it just started to feel so good. I just have so much more energy. I'm less in my head. And then when we were talking about how when I first started walking, I had all this, like nerve pain in my left leg and my left foot, and I could easily go into narrative around this, because my dad has MS, and I was like, shit, do I have this? And I started worrying about that, or could it be like a back thing? Because I've had back issues for a while, just from being in a car accident when I was a kid. I broke my back, so it was like, any of those things I could put into narrative and be like, I need to stop walking. I need to go see a doctor, right? But I was like, No, I just kept moving. And I kept walking more and more, and then that whole nerve pain shit just went away, and in that moment that told me, okay, all of this was narrative. I just need to continue doing what I'm doing, because it's I'm being led by my body, and then I'm also leading my body. It's just like this, back and forth fueling, and it just feels really, really good. And I'm like, I feel myself craving different things, like food wise. I feel myself craving different activity, less coffee from the previous episode, just different, different resonance. Because your body is is its own, is its own entity,
Laura 3:37
yeah, and I love that back and forth fueling you were talking about, because that's exactly what it is, right? Like, it's an it's a relationship, it's an exchange, and that you're going to follow what you desire, and then as your body expresses its desire, you know, it becomes this really beautiful dance. And I love that you talked about the movement with the back pain, because, yeah, I mean, we get narratives like this all the time. Well, this is because, like for me, I said for years, my legs are killing me because and I have weakness because I had nerve damage from sepsis, right? Why did I claim that? Right? Like, when I look back at it, it's, you know, the the level at which I could have healed faster if I had not attached that narrative to it, because ultimately, in Eastern medicine, the ultimate root of disease is not is stagnancy, right of energy, and so movement is the number one thing. So that's one of the things that I teach people all the time when I'm working with them, is, I don't care if you can't move and you're in bed, start to stretch a little bit, widen your breath so much that your rib cage expands right? Bring movement into your body, into your tissues, because it's going to your body is naturally self correcting. Your body is naturally cleansing and a cycle of its own nourishment, right? And so for you. Too. It's just being part of that feedback loop. And I think we just dissociate from our body so much that we're not even engaged in the conversation. And then when you start attending to it, it's like, oh, wait, this bitch is here. She wants to have a conference. She wants to chat, all right? I'm going to start talking to her, right? So I love that you started to receive that and listen to it. And I remember this when I started eating very differently, cut out gluten, cut out dairy, you know, figured out what my food sensitivities were, cut those out. And I started eating differently. And I remember saying, I am not somebody who's ever going to shift her preferences like I lived to eat 100% and then I realized, once I started eating differently, that I was, first of all piss. I had to have my tantrums for a little bit about the stuff that I, quote, unquote, couldn't eat, right? But then I realized my body didn't desire them. It wasn't that I couldn't eat them, is that I my body was saying I don't want to eat them because I don't like them. They don't resonate with me, and I felt better. I felt lighter, and my does, my taste and my desires and my cravings all shifted when I said they never would. And it's really wild to see how much even just centeredness and cleanliness and pride you feel when you are nourishing your body in the way that it desires, and then when you start bringing in the things, whether this is food, whether this is activities, whether this is people or situations in Your life that don't resonate with a more nourished, high frequency system, you see it clearer.
Jenna 6:46
I like that, because your body will tell you, like, if it's actually something that your body does not want, you'll know the difference between that and your mind saying, this is an I'm giving it an excuse to not do something, because this is like a subconscious patterning, or this is something that I'm not used to doing, and it feels uncomfortable, so I just don't want to do it right now. It's like, you will, you will feel the difference in that, and I can feel it now, like I'm starting to feel that now big time, and I love it. And it's also like pissing me off, because it's me calling myself out a lot.
Laura 7:23
Yeah, I know, right, that's, I'm glad you brought that up, though, too. Because, I mean, I go through that myself, where it's like, Could I really have learned this lesson a lot earlier in my life, right? But, of course, it's all meant to happen anyway. It's meant to happen. We made the choices as we were meant, but, but, yeah, your body has, has its own consciousness, right? It has its own consciousness. And so, yes, when, when that is when that consciousness is clearer, when that consciousness is operating at a higher frequency, when that consciousness has the benefit of your presence and connected relationship, it's going to expand. It's going to extend. And what is in alignment is just going to become more and more refined, just as if you're expanding your spiritual consciousness, right? Your energetic consciousness is the same thing the body's energy. So when you refine the consciousness of your body, what is and is not for you is going to become clearer and clearer, including relationships, including scenarios that are not meant for you.
Jenna 8:28
Yeah, and I'll tell you, like, when I've been following this more, I have such a deeper level of calm, like I don't even know how to explain it. It's just like my nervous system is much more grounded. It feels a lot more grounded lately, like yesterday, you know, when I was like, having earned was it the day before, no yesterday, when I had that pain, and normally I would have just been like, fuck that. I'm just gonna lay in bed all day and not do anything. But I actually got up and just went to work and took the fucking dog. So it was just different. Like, the choices are different, and they just become like this, where I don't think about them,
Laura 9:04
Right and I'm glad you brought that up, because I was going to bring up that example too, is that you didn't just dismiss it and move on. You were present with it. You were present with it and didn't get into this. Well, what could this be? And could it be this, or could it be that? I mean, even if you did briefly, right? It was a we're still meeting it as energy, even if there is narrative attached to it, that's fine. If you can't get rid of that, that's fine. But like, you're still meeting the energy and just being like, okay, let's just come into presence with this, right? Let it speak to us. And that was a big, a big exercise for me for a good two and a half years after I had sepsis, which was really connecting to these pains or symptoms that were coming up in my body as energy and just allowing them to speak to me. What is it you have to tell me? Because one thing I notice, as you're saying, like your body feels so much better, and you feel lighter and you feel clear, and all of these things, the other thing I noticed in a lot of people. Too is that that's when you can start releasing more. You can have some more pain or some more emotion come forward, because you're, you're taking a different route than you've taken before. And so it's almost like this purging, or it's like, alright, she's kind of walked so much, or she's she's eaten to a degree where she has filtered and cleansed, what is sticky, heavy no longer matches. And sometimes when that leaves the system, it can feel uncomfortable. So I think that's a helpful thing to know too, is, Oh, this isn't working. Because I could have said that a million times, Oh, this isn't working. I think I did at the beginning. This is making it worse. Actually, it's clearing. It's getting rid of the sticky stuff that built up to what you were feeling in the first place. And if you're present with it as energy, and give it space to inform you and move and on its own accord, and know this is just energy, it's going to move. And sometimes you need somebody else, like, there's been times you and I have both done that for each other, where, like, one of us has been in our head about whatever it is that's going on, and it's like, this is just energy. This is what it's saying. It wants to move right. And if you can't do that for yourself, fine, have somebody else in your life that that you can connect with, that's able to kind of see what you're in and see beyond what you're in.
Jenna 11:14
It's just another level of trust, a huge one. And I think a lot of us don't want to trust our bodies, because it's a control thing.
Laura 11:25
And I think it's a boundary that's always just been ours. Nobody else has, our skin, you know, and the boundary of this body that we each have. And it's like, yeah, it's that control piece you're talking about. And it's like, I worked with people with eating disorder diagnoses for years, decades, and that was one of the biggest things, is it's like, you know what? You can tell me to do this, this, that and the other, but you can't tell me not to throw up after I eat, and you can't tell me not to you can't tell me to swallow what I put in my mouth. My body's the only you know what I mean, like, that was the one thing that people would be able to say, No, I have full control over this body, because it's mine. I can do whatever the fuck I want with it. Even people who are suicidal sometimes be like, I can off myself if I want to. It's my body, right? And so it's just really interesting, because it does bring this level of like ownership to the body at the same time that you get to come into relationship with its consciousness. And I think that's the dance. What's coming up for you right now?
Jenna 12:31
This is doing something to my body. So I had never, I had never identified with my body like that before, as being mine, as being something that I control. I mean, I do lately, in that sense, but like before, that was not something that I did, and what I what it brought up was this sensation of, you know how I told you when I was in college and I got put on that 72 hour, hold you. Remember I told you about this. So the reason that fucked me up so bad was because all I ever thought about was that you can't take my mind, because I was so heavily in the mind, and I was like, you can do what you want to my body. You can, like, keep me in this space, get this container, and I don't care, but you can't take my mind, and that's what kept me kind of okay. And so it's interesting feeling into this concept of you have, like you can't do anything to my body, so it's just having that shift is like, Oh, it feels like more autonomy.
Laura 13:37
Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
Jenna 13:39
Because before I was just like, No, it's not, I don't care. And then I think it's just this awareness of like, No, I do,
Laura 13:47
yeah, exactly, exactly. And it's it. I kind of had something similar in that way, when I realized that I was, I was eating kale, I was eating beets, I was eating all these things, right? And I realized that I was doing them because I wanted to get to a certain outcome, I wanted to feel better, and I was doing it from an obligatory space. And then when I started realizing, Wait, I'm meant to be doing this because I love my body. I'm meant to be doing this because I have a deep desire to nourish myself. I meant to do this because I love being in relationship with my body and feeling its response and being present with it, and that was a game changer for my healing, because I wasn't doing these things to check them off the list, so that I could feel better, so that I could be at a certain point, or to prove something to the medical system, look, I can heal myself, right? I What? It wasn't from any of that place. It was just from a pure desire to be in love with my body. Mm. Hmm, and I think that when we have symptoms, certain symptoms, there's a lot of it's really a sign of dissociation and disconnection from our bodies. I don't even want to say it that way. I want to say it as it's really just a sign that we're being invited into deeper relationship with our bodies.
Jenna 15:17
Yeah, I think we take them for granted, and we just expect them to run
Laura 15:24
100% Yeah, just like when you and I were talking about that pain in your stomach yesterday. And one of the things that came forward at the end of that channeling, when I was giving you Reiki, was to say the whole pono pono prayer over your body over and over and over again, right? And I did. I love you. I'm sorry. Please forgive me. And just saying it over and over again, because it's coming into recognition that, yeah, there's some things that I don't see, there's some things that you don't see. And we're coming together here, and we're both, you know, arriving at the table humbly aware that we are still growing and learning together and and we're both here for it. What are you thinking? I'm thinking about how when our bodies get older, and people would say, well, somebody can have a really good relationship with their body, but still get cancer when they're 70, or, you know, still end up getting something because the body is not the body is finite. So would you say that somebody who's 85 and has, you know, C Diff or something wasn't in, you know? And so I think that's just an interesting thing that was coming up for me that I've always thought about. It's something I've always considered with a body awareness piece, and something actually wrote in my journal yesterday about, like, being in your highest divinity. And what I was saying was being in your highest devotion to a number of different areas that I wrote down as to being in your highest divinity. And so it's like, if you're in devotion to these spaces, meaning your mind, your body, relationships, all the other things I listed, then you're operating your highest divinity. And just because you have an illness at 85 does not mean that you're not in your highest divinity. That being said, I do believe, I do believe that we can pass from this life without having illness. I believe we can pass from this life just peacefully transitioning without having pain or illness associated with it as well.
Jenna 17:18
This is an interesting thing to dive into, because at what point does the does, like a soul assignment come in?
Laura 17:25
Right?
Jenna 17:25
What if that's part of it?
Laura 17:27
So as I'll choose to be in this awareness with all aspects of self as best I can, as I continue out of a space of desire, not response, not requirement, and at the same time that I am not gripping to the outcome being that, well, I think that's exactly it, right? It's, that's it's exactly it is that, like I said earlier, I'm not doing these things because I have to get better. I'm doing these things because I love my body. And whether my my soul has decided for my body to die at 2547 or 72 or 95 I'm still gonna love it in the moment and be present with it regardless. But I think we can definitely get into that conversation of, like, I mean, there have been people. There was one person once who she was signed up for my Akashic Record certification program, and I got the flu, and I was hospitalized with the flu, and she I was like, posting about it or something, and she pulled out of the program, saying that it said something about my spirituality, that I got sick. What the hell that I clearly had wasn't, like, clearing my limiting programs enough, or wasn't like, you know, purely connected to spirit enough because I was getting symptoms. So it is. It's interesting, because you can be in your highest divinity, and, you know, really be in devotion to all of these aspects of self and connection and still get sick. And that doesn't mean you're doing something wrong.
Jenna 18:52
No. What if it's just a different form of receipt,
Laura 18:55
Correct. And you just be present with it?
Jenna 18:57
Yeah. No, that's fucked. I don't like that, the pulling out of the program for that reason, that just
Laura 19:03
well, and I think this is why law of attraction can get on my nerves sometimes, because it's like this, you know, what you tell yourself is what you end up attracting? And it's like, okay, but we also have soul contracts. We also have soul contracts. And, yeah, our soul contracted. Choose this mind and this nervous system and all of that, and it's always an evolution, but, but if I'm continuously meeting myself, and I think this is where perfectionism can really come into the spiritual community that I think is not of service to people, because the fact is, if we're truly honoring our souls, our souls signed up To be in human bodies in a finite container, in a dualistic environment, and so in that it's meeting everything as divinity, regardless of how it comes forward. It doesn't mean you're never, ever going to get sick at the same time you are going to have your path is going to feel lighter if. You do these things, like nourishing your body, moving your like listening to your body's signals, things like that. It will make it smoother, and it's a reference. It's an honoring of all aspects of who you are. Honor yourself when you're really sick. Can you revere yourself? Can you look at yourself in awe? Can you surrender and be unapologetic about honoring your body's signals? Like, one of the things that I've really mastered is going from over coddling my body to the point where everything it said I'd be like, Okay, I'm going to jump and do it because I don't want to get sick again. That was coming from a place of fear, because I don't want to get sick again, right? This hyper vigilant state with my body to more of a discerned state with my body, where it speaks, and then I tune in, right? I'm tuning into all layers of consciousness, not just the body. So Yes, I'm listening to the body, but I've also got it all integrated at this point, whereas, like you and I will be recording podcast episodes, and we'll stop recording one, and I'm like, I just I my body really, really, I can feel like my energy really wants to be outside and walking and walking and moving right now, so I'll go do that, and then we'll come back and record. You know what I mean? Like it's being able to listen to those signals and prioritize them at the same time that I'm not bowing to them. Because that can be a slippery slope as well, where your body is this tantrumy child that every time it screams and you attend to it, it's a little overkill. So it's finding that pendulum, that center of the pendulum swing, and letting it settle. I like that. What's coming up for you? You're very pensive in this one.
Jenna 21:33
I just feel like I'm receiving I feel like a lot's come up in this one, and I'm still thinking about the health piece and about illness and how that plays a role in things, because I don't think it has to do with I think there are certain illnesses that we bring upon ourselves. Yeah, absolutely, but I also think that there are ones that arrive to us from a soul level. I mean,
Laura 21:55
it's from an emotional perspective. It's what I was sharing to you, with you about my daughter and how she was talking to me about stuff that was bothering her the other day, and I had something to do with my or made me think of something with my sister, and then my mom brought up my sister in the morning, and it was just very clear. And then I just felt this like kind of tightness in my chest, and I didn't know what it was or why it was there, but I just knew I needed to go into meditation to be present with it. And then I did, and I was just like, crying and sobbing, and you were like, you know, are you okay? And, and I was just like, I just, I just cleared something for my lineage. It really didn't even feel like it had much to do with me, right? I mean, sure, I'm part of it, so yes, but like, you know, from a narrative perspective, it was just like, Yeah, I just, sometimes those things just arrive to be cleared from your lineage. And if you are the one who has raised your hand to say, like, I'm here for the healing, I'm here for the clearing, I'm here for a new paradigm. I'm here for a new way. Then you're you know, your soul chose that and and it will be cleared through you, and it doesn't necessarily have to do with you, that that pain, that illness, whatever it is, is not necessarily just for you. Like I realized a lot of the not just sepsis, but the illnesses following sepsis, were were, yes, they were for me. Of course, they were for me in my own expansion, but they were also very much for my family. Very, very much for my family. They were huge messages in that for them, huge invitations in that for them. So it's recognizing that it's not all just yours. It's not meant to be, and that sometimes, yeah, sometimes these just come through as energies to to clear the pathway. And it's coming into, like, I tell people, it's not just coming into acceptance that you are feeling a certain way, or especially people of chronic illness have a chronic illness, not just coming to acceptance, coming into gratitude for it, celebration for the fact that that arrived. Like, thank God I got sepsis. So some of my therapy clients that I had for years prior to getting sepsis, before I shifted my business, were like, Thank God you got sepsis. And they were laughing about it, because they were like, when you shifted into this new way with the energetic and the physical and the spiritual healing piece that I brought in there, they they shifted so much, so fast. And they were just like, thank God, because it awoken. It woke something up in me that provided so much more depth for for everyone around me, you know. And so it's, it's coming into, can I revere this? Can I celebrate that this came up? Because, thank God, thank God, I am not a type a people pleaser anymore. My God, I never knew how happy and free I could be and feel, how healthy I could feel, how active I could be, how strong I could feel. And that's exactly the kind of thing that's been coming to you since you started to do this stuff with your body. Even feeling like when you'll eat something, you'll be like, Oh my god, I'm so sick. And you start to wonder, did I get food poisoning. Do I have a bug? And I'm like, Jenna, you your vessel is just so accustomed to being clean now.
Jenna 24:46
Oh, that's weird.
Laura 24:47
Yeah, we should stop, because this one's been a while, and a lot of things that have come up and people, let me say, This feels like a deep one. It feels like it could speak. Speak to you at like a visceral level, you know, and give you like a nervous system response internally, like Jenna had in the middle of this episode. So be present with that, you know. And we'll note this at the beginning or in our notes, to pause, you know, pause at any point that you need to be present with this comment, reach out to us. We're here to support you and to be in a present witness of whatever's arriving. And if you're somebody who is in a place that has resentment towards their body or consistent symptoms, emotional or physical, that are just not coming to resolution, and feel like a cycle or a pattern, that's something that we're really devoted to supporting you in. So we're just a message away. Say hello and we'll be very kind back. And thank you so much for joining us, and we'll see you on our next episode. Bye for now.
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