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Welcome to the Akashic musings podcast. My name is Laura Mazzotta and I will be your guide during the sacred experience. I'm an Akashic healer and teacher, and I've also been a therapist for almost 20 years. This podcast is your go to opportunity for all things healing, inspiration and Empowerment. I will be sharing potent wisdom from divine intelligence in the space of the Akashic Records. For more understanding of what the Akashic Records are, I encourage you to listen to episode one, or head over to my website at WWW dot v Akashic therapist.com. I'm so grateful to have you here, receiving the powerful energetic shifts that radiate through these messages. Just by listening in you're doing your part to raise the vibration of the planet and fully realize our natural state of wellness and vitality. Without further ado, here's today's episode
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What's up beautiful people. We are back with episode three of this eight part series on catalyzing your soul's deepest embodiment in the context of relationships. If you have not caught episode one which is how relationships serve as a portal for your most expansive healing check it out. And Episode Two was also a nice it was really well received these being really well received people are loving this series so far. That was called quote unquote normalcy and relationships because as we know, there's no there was no such thing as normalcy in relationships. You get to define that for yourself. But watch that watch slash listen to that episode. We have this on YouTube, and on all of the podcast streaming, what do you call them platforms? Spotify, Apple, Google data, happiness. Okay, so today we're talking about codependency. And I'm gonna start just by talking about how fucking codependent I've been my entire life.
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Yeah, and Katie and I have really helped each other through this experience. But
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dude, codependency is a bitch to decondition. It really is. And it doesn't really have to be a we make it so much more complicated than it needs to be. But I swear to God, like I was codependent on my mother, my father, my husband, my sister, God, like I was codependent in so many areas. And the level of freedom that I've experienced with releasing codependency has been immensely illuminating because it's like, I'm coming back to myself, and really this ownership and appreciation and love for myself. And it's also bringing me into this like really sustainable sovereignty and confidence. At the same time that even even today as we're recording this, there's moments that, that the loneliness, or that that almost craving internally can come forward. But I see that and I know it for what it is. And I know what that means and what it's telling me which we can talk about a little bit. But I think that you know, it's really a process of exploration to to decide that codependency is no longer something that you want to participate in. So I'm gonna define codependency and then we can talk about it back and forth. But it's really, you know, it's a term that's thrown around so much like too often, I feel like so many people like, Oh, you're so codependent or you're so codependent. First of all, it's normal to be dependent on other humans, like it's normal to rely on each other. We are meant to be here to co regulate, you know, because when people are trying to quote unquote avoid of codependency they ended up going to hyper independence, which is Katie, and I can attest to doing that we've done which we talked about, I think in Episode Five.
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So if you need help with that, there you go. But
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yeah, I mean, I think that it can, it can go that route where it's like, I don't need anyone, right? Like I always say, Independence always requires a healthy level of dependence. codependency is when we like take on somebody else's feelings as our own. And we get into this space of needing to save them. And it becomes this triangle of like, well, I'm going to save you and then when you don't respond to my saving, or I don't get what I wanted out of saving you because ultimately this was about serving myself even though I didn't recognize that then I get mad at you and I'm pissy and I have my tantrum and
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Then I go into victim poor me, I was just trying to save them and help them and make them feel better and look, right. And it's just this brutal cycle that really comes from a very people pleasing space of like, but I just want to help people. Why? Because you're trying to save yourself and like, make yourself feel good about yourself. And so you're technically using someone else to make yourself feel better.
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Yeah, so how is this presented in your life? Katie? Oh, that one just hit like, Oh, I know.
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Um, yeah, I think I had
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getting tongue tied here. Because like, there's so many, same all the same areas that you said in the beginning, like, same, I was dependent, like, if I do this, then this will happen, right? Like, and it's always that reflection back on ourselves. But I feel like how this presents most deeply in my life right now is like,
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I just want to help people, right? And I just want to see them, like, I see the potential in them immediately. Yeah. I'm like, Oh, my gosh, like this or your light, or this is your gift, or, you know, like, oh, just forget that belief. And like, switch it and right, like, I can see all of that, of course, reflecting that back to me, right. This is where you talked about blind spots in one of our episodes, too, right? This is why we need other people, right. But I ended up taking that role on so much that I took,
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I guess I took on their problems as my own thinking that they were mine.
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But then also for me to solve, it's not my responsibility to solve their problems. It's my responsibility to take care of me and offer myself the space to process what I'm about processing and going through. But it's not my responsibility to make that person be what I see.
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Yeah, or be what you desire. Right? Oh, and like, they're like, we're offering them sovereignty by allowing themselves to have their own emotional experience or whatever experience they have, and to choose whether or not they want to execute their potential. And I am so freaking grateful that you brought up this concept of potential, because I think this is so important that like we do, we fall in love with people's potential, whether this is in whatever type of relationship you're talking about, even client to coach, right? Like, we fall in love with people like oh, my gosh, your energy is big. You have a huge mission here. Like I see you and I see what you're capable of. And they're kind of like, wah, wah, wah. And then it's like, no, no, no, no, no, I see you let me let me extract let me pull you for, but then we become energy vampires we really do. Where we like, suck on like leeches, even if we're not doing it in, in behavior or verbally or expressiveness. Like, energetically, we latch on to this, like, it's like this lychee energy of like, but no, I know, I see this and I know, and this is gonna be so good. And I can see you being at this space. And, but if they are not ready, and they don't want to do it, that's their choice. That's their journey. That's their path. And like, that's the part of like, that's still one of my hardest parts, like, releasing, like, they're on their own journey, just like I have, I'm sure people look at me and be like, Why is she doing that? That's more for me to learn me to find out me to explore, right? And the same goes in the reverse. Like, I got grasping on again, whether it's client or some other relationship in my life, like, that's their journey, they have to see it I can be maybe that spark that starts that open up to that, but
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all that's doing is disempowering them and disempowering me and leaking my energy creating I feel like those energy leaks creates more dependency or mo Z right? Because you're like oh my God, help me I'm so tired or oh my god can you do this this chore because I don't have the energy for it. And it's like well, where you do have the energy but your energy is being leaked somewhere else? That's not for your highest and best that's not something that lights you up. That's not something that you're in love with. Right? I love Oh, fucking watch Katy and I can tell you do too because I can like feel your energy and I'm like, Yeah, let's sister and so that's Oh my gosh, I love that so much because this that's what this is about taking responsibility for your boundaries not with okay, I haven't a boundary with with Michelle and Joe and and Anita. And it's like okay, but how fucking annoying is that? First of all, because I can't keep track like I can't keep track of like when I peed last, right? Like so I'm going to keep track of like, which boundaries are for who know, okay, like boundaries are for us. So it's like you being really, really clear on like, this area in my aura is sacred. Right. It's sacred and I am in
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A space of being very, very clear, clean and crisp about what I am available for within this sacred space and what I am not. Right. And when I'm clear about that, then those, those vibes that don't align are not going to even come to me, right? Because I'm not porous enough to be able to open to that. And it just bounces off because it's not aligned. But I think that, but I think this concept of, of,
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what were you saying it was?
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It was feeling like, I'm giving away all of this energy, and therefore expecting people in my life to fix it for me. And I love that because it's like, no, you're responsible for your energy leaks, you're responsible for keeping those boundaries in a space where you're not trickling out and then expecting other people to pick up the pieces. Totally. And that's the freedom that we talked about, I think last episode around like, this is what it means to allow both people in the relationship to feel free. Yes, it totally is. I mean,
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I don't know why this example is coming up, but I'm just gonna talk it out. Because you sent me a voice note yesterday, and you were like, you're so good at finding you're happy. And it was like, oh, like,
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first up, you saw me, it's like, you always see me, right? But I was like, Oh, my God.
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But I, I was like, Okay, there's energy leaks, because for the days that I don't feel like I have a good grasp of my happiness, those there's some energy leak around me, there's some boundary that I that I'm giving away, and expecting in return. Right? It's that whole like, this, we're givers, right? We're giving you a gift. And we expect that same in return.
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And I don't know, it just it um, as you were talking, like, that's what that reminds me of like. And that's where I think the healthy part of our human relationships start to come in, right? You can see something in me that maybe I'm not seeing that I'm blind to, right. You can say it, I take it. And I'm, I mean, we talk all the time. There's tons of nuggets. But that's what I heard in that one instance that I was like, she's so right. I do I do. And
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and so then it's up to me, it's not up to you to write me all the ways that I am happy and that I'm good at finding my happy. It's about me saying, okay, she's so right. I know she's true. I feel that truth within me. When she said that I was like, Whoa, like, my, my heart bursted. I was like, Okay, I am good at that. So why, what about my energy? What, uh, right. But this is where the mind comes in. Right? Like we've been talking about the energetics behind this. And I think it's also really helpful to talk about the mind piece that you're bringing in here now, right? I'll give an example of this one.
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Which is, so my husband was off for like a week. He's a school teacher along with like, his 12 other jobs that he does, but he's a school teacher. And so he had a week off. And
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he had been it since the beginning of the school year, like a little bit more restless, and like, not fully himself, because, you know, I gotta be honest, like, since the pandemic, teaching has not been an easy profession to be in. It has not so anyway, so he was
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he was experiencing a level of calm and relaxation and contentment, that week that he was off that I have not seen him in six to seven months. So I told her, I was like, This is making me itchy, right? Because like, like, it's making me itchy, because I'm like, I'm seeing him. And he's so calm. And I keep going, like, what's going on, dude? Like, I'm like, What are you thinking that you're not sharing? Like, what are you feeling that you're not sharing? Like, because it was such a disparity from how he's been? And so it was just like, what's going on? And so I was energetically taking some of this on, but starting this narrative in my head around like, there's something he's not saying because there's the shift that and it's like, where is it my job or business? To know if there's something going on within him that he is sharing or not sharing, to know how he is feeling like, Who gives a shit? It's not my responsibility. Right? And I think that's where you and I have been talking so much about letting that inner teenager tantrum or that inner child tantrum because asking if you're okay comes from those younger days where you were expected to take on other people's responsibility. You know, the examples of like, don't do that mom's sleeping or you know, be quiet or you know, this is the situation so be your best right like so.
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You're constantly want to ask, are you okay? Something's wrong, something's shifted, something's changed. And we do we take on that responsibility. And it's like, oh, that's not ours to do. Like, what if they just arrived there and found it for them? Why? Right?
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Right, right. Let them let him be and his experience. Instead, it's like me projecting this hyper vigilance that's coming up within me based on a history not just with our relationship, but with my childhood, like you were talking about too. And it's just so interesting how those sneak in at certain times. And those are times I want to say very clearly to everyone like that we are not meant to shame ourselves for right. It's like, oh, my gosh, I've worked on this for years, why the hell is this still coming up. Instead, it's like, Oh, hello, like, Thank you for showing me where there are still fragments of this present. So that I can be be present with myself and compassionate and loving and patient around what's coming forward. But in that it's not putting it on him to have to explain himself to have to justify the space that he's in. Right. Instead, it's about me recognizing, and this is one of the ways that we start to release codependency really is recognizing, okay, I'm having this activation within myself. And this is clearly an inner child or an inner teenager, like you said that, that desires, my attention, that desires to be seen, that desires to be loved, that desires to feel safe. And okay, and grounded and held. And, you know, and I think that, that's really, that's really the beauty of it is being able to recognize the nervous system response, not have to put meaning into, well, this is for my child, and and this is why it happens. So I need to go back and understand it and heal it. No, we don't need to go through all of that. Okay, we can literally just recognize it and be like,
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instead of labeling it as all the stories label it as okay, my nervous system is activated right now, my nervous system needs some grounding my nervous system desires, some love and bringing that parenting bringing that love to the nervous system, and then
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accessing intimacy. Right, because really, that's what we're looking for, is that intimacy. And that intimacy is something that we can find, not necessarily from that person, right, we can find intimacy with the universe with our friends with ourselves.
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I think that's the other thing, right? We get attached to that person giving it back to us, because we're so concerned right about them and their wellbeing, or they're like, whatever sauce, they're in, that we're like, well, now give it back to me, right? Like, we do crave that. But this is where you and I have talked about we can not
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maybe that's strongly put, I don't believe that I want one person to be my everything. Right? Right. I want to have intimate relationships that can see me and hold me no matter where I'm at. Right? And that's not going to come from one partner, one person that's going to come from
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a depths of friendships and relationships, because
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we're human, we're like we have that's why we're here is to create these relationships.
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And so to your point, yeah, it's, that's a reflection back for you to create that intimacy within yourself within God universe source or some other human relationship here. But we can't get I use that, like, we have to start to not put all of our eggs in one basket, like for that one person. Yeah. And I feel like this is why a lot of people talk about the fact that marriage, the institution of marriage itself, breeds codependency. And I think it's because there's this expectation that like, you know, well, if I'm falling short, in some area, my spouse is going to pick that up, like we're here as partners for life. And we need to do that for each other where actually, if you release that requirement, and you're able to really visualize it, almost like you're leading parallel lives, I'm doing my life, this person's doing their life, then it lightens the energy so that you come together more often, with a lightness of being where you get to have enjoyment of one another, rather than reliance. That doesn't mean that like my husband meets a lot of needs for me, but they're not required. I am perfectly capable of doing it without him. But it makes my life even more expansive, and joyful and light to have his support and assistance. So it's a we're able to get to that point where it's like, I don't need this to feel complete to feel like I can move forward and be my highest and best, but I can get there faster and wider and deeper with your tether and support. And I think that's a really big shift. When we are talking about long term sustainable relationships, and really one of the biggest factors that support long term sustainable relationships is space space from one another space to be yourselves because it's almost like this
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as default, when we're in long term relationship that when something's up, okay, I'm gonna go to my spouse, I'm gonna talk to them about this, did it add it up, and it just becomes too much. It places a lot of pressure and burden on the relationship and the other person, it really does. It does. And I think this is another society normally, you know, we have our parents or some Guardian write of some sort, that through all of our adolescents, like, we're required to have their beliefs and to do the things that they do. And like, then we hop into these marriages or these other partnerships of some sort that we expect that same thing like we're, I feel like we've, we've been like we are, we are codependent at a newborn as a newborn as a toddler right to do the certain things. And so it is within us. And so that's also where I feel like a lot of the shame and guilt and all of those like, emotions don't like don't, that's how we are meant, like, that's how we're meant to do life here. Like, that's how we started. So it is deeply rooted within us.
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But I love how you're like, we don't have to make it mean anything, and we don't have to put pressure on it. And by giving the relationship space, we don't have to just jump into the next society norm of being placed in another codependent relationship, because that's what I feel like it is like, Okay, you had your relationship with your parents, and now you're gonna go get married, and you're like, ah, like setting you up. And then like, take your job, you become codependent on your job. Because you're like, Well, this is my source of income. This is my source of purpose this is. And it's like,
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it's all there. And it's like, if we can step back, we can zoom out of a moment and not make those lean all the things and put pressure on them to perform pressures for them to be a certain thing and to receive something back. And we can just truly enjoy it and get into the pleasure and the right, like, that's where we're gonna find that freedom. Yeah. And it's about, like, what you're talking about is like, it's about being extractive like I'm trying to get something from this, rather than just like, I love loving. I love loving and as long as I know and have clear boundaries, I can give as much love as I desire. I love loving and I love loving big. And I think that that's what came in. When I released codependency was almost like, there were parts of me and I said this out loud a couple of times, can I just go back to being codependent, please. Because it was really enjoyable. Like, I love that feeling of like, madly in love, and I'm obsessed with you. And I just want to like give everything to you and you give everything to me. And it's just, oh my gosh, but it's like frickin exhausting to and I realized that this is what was coming forward with what you were just talking about. When it can you can so easily get sucked back into it and other relationships. And I found that this was happening with God for a period of time where I was like, everything that came up, I'm like, Okay, I'm just gonna ask God, I'm gonna give it to God, I'm gonna give it to God. But it was an abdication of my responsibility to give everything to God. There's a difference between I'm going to passively surrender to God and like throw up my hand and just be like, whatever it's in your hands now I'm just giving it to you, right? I'm just gonna let you fix everything for me. I'm still looking for you to save me. Rather than seeing myself in my power and being in this co creative space with you know what, I'm going to sit here and be with this and allow this to come to me. And if God has something to say, I'm open it's gonna pop in dude, rather than this extractive Gimme gimme gimme I need I need I need like Bob Wiley from what does that movie What About Bob favorite movie if you haven't watched it, do it. But yeah, it's that's the other thing I wanted to touch on here was this concept of like, what it feels like to love with codependency feels so fucking good. It's like a high, right? It's like an addiction energy. It's a very, it's a high and it's like it's an attachment, like you've talked about as well like, and so our minds get attached to the love that we feel when we're in codependent connection. And this is where I have been beautifully invited to shift and have. And we you and I were literally just talking about this this morning with being responsible for creating and owning and being in the excitement of life, being madly in love with my life and being responsible for finding and creating excitement and joy and expansion in my life. And like, I have that. And I'm like, I'm amazing. My life is amazing. It's expansive, it's phenomenal. It's fun, I have so many exciting things going on for myself and just around me. And in that vibration I get to just be playful and light and joyful with my partner and with the other people in my life. And I have owned that feeling that that high right that we feel from that love and it's not a dopamine hit like we were talking about previously, but it's a it's a momentum generator as I have things on my calendar that are exciting to look forward to. And it's like, I get to recreate that same level of passion and activation without relying on someone else to provide
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did for me in some way? Yeah. And then there's that other piece that's like
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when your calendar isn't full of something, right? Not becoming reliant on still that external factor knowing that your mission and that your your love for life is still present there, even if the external doesn't give you something in return. Right. I think that's that next, like another next layer of that codependency. Yeah and the other thing that you said, What? No, I said Yeah, I was gonna say something else but finish your thought and then I'll share it. That's okay. Um, yeah, you said something else about like saving like, we expect people somebody else to save us. And it's like, you're looking in the mirror that is who's going to save you. Right? Like, again, the example I gave this morning of you being like, your voice note that you're like, you're so good at fighting, you're happy. It's like, yes, we can have other people reflect things back to us. But it's your responsibility. Right? That doesn't mean we don't get to feel joy in those reflections. Like I was saying, I feel I feel more expansive and joyful when my husband helps me with some of these practical things, right? Like, it feels good. But we're not latching on to it for like to feel complete to feel stable. Right? We're not
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to, like, get our next breath off of. Yes, right. Like, yes, it might feel amazing to have somebody love you would be all gushy and like, you know, clingy, right? For for that moment, but like, not needing them to complete you not needing them to
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always give you that love, right? And not always looking for them to save you 100% Because then you get dependent on that, right? Then you get, it's like, Oh, that felt good. And then you keep going back for more. And then they're like, Oh, it feels good to make you feel good. And you know, it's, it's very easy to slip back into. And that's why for me, what I do is when this starts to come up a little bit, and I go to like message, the person that I want a message, I asked myself, What am I looking to get out of this? Right? What am I looking for here? Right? Because I don't want to be extractive right. And I also want to honor my own sovereignty. Now, if I'm in a space where, like, I don't want to reach out to somebody in a space of desperation, unless, of course, it's like an emergency, right? But I don't want to reach out to somebody in a space of desperation, like, because if I and what I'll ask myself, this is the attachment to outcome thing I was just gonna bring up that kind of came up while you were talking, which was like,
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if I'm attached to their response in any way, I'm not going to message them. Because it's like, if I because I'm clearly looking for something. And if I'm clearly looking for something, and then the what they respond with is then disappointing. That is not fair to them. That is fair to you. And it's not fair to me, either. I'm like setting myself up, right. And so it's me asking myself before I send that message, right? Like,
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what am I looking for from this, right? And then if I find that I'm looking for something, I will go move my body, go into meditation, take a walk, I'm like, Okay, I know how to clear this, I know how to be with this. And then from a more aligned space, I can make that connection, to feel the intimacy and that space between us that is so nourishing and fulfilling. And offer me What is that the depth of what I really, really need, and not what my brain and my nervous system want, because I'm accustomed to it.
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And this attachment to outcome piece, I wanted to talk about it just for another moment here, too, that you were talking about, when you like go to somebody else. And it's like, you know,
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even when you're looking at their potential and things like that, like if you're attached to how you're saving or your interaction, or you're sharing with them or your love that you're giving them, if you're attached to how what they're going to do with that, how they're going to respond to that, how they're going to receive it, then you need to kind of check yourself a little bit and come back into the feeling of love that you want to offer them or whatever it is you want to offer them. And allow yourself to receive some of that for yourself and give some of that to yourself and get to a place of nourishment and anchoring before you then give it to them so that you're not you're not as attached to because that's when it becomes this argument. And this tension between the two of you because it's like, well, I just given you so much love. How could you not respond like that? And it's like, will you give me enough because you wanted to like maybe I wasn't in a space to receive it right? And so it's like, it feels intrusive to the other person.
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Oh, that's such a good point.
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And it's it's bringing up these things of like the whole conditional love versus unconditional love. When you can pause and root and see what you're really see what you're looking for in that outcome in that exchange.
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And see, because that's conditional, right you're looking for
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Something in in that return. So if you can move your body go for a walk, listen to music, like whatever, right to return love to yourself that comes from a deep, a much deeper space that comes from an unconditional space. Because and oh boy, how did you were you gonna say something just because you're fully nourished, right? You're you're,
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you are complete because you've seen that part of you that didn't really want to be seen or that wanted to be seen. But you your human didn't want to see it. You saw it. And so it's completed you by you now go taking that. And so now your love shows up unconditional versus conditioned. 100% It's so beautiful. And I'm so I'm so glad that you shared that. I'm so glad that you shared that because I feel like
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I think a lot of love on this planet is conditional. I really think a lot of love on this planet is conditional. And I also think that like, it's really important for people to understand that reciprocity. Yes, it's okay to desire reciprocity. But what I think people don't recognize, and so many people are conditionally loving is that when you do what Katie was just talking about with kind of nourishing and giving that to yourself and filling yourself up, it actually makes reciprocity so much easier and more natural, because you're not forcing it, you're not looking for it, you're not pulling and extracting, even if you're doing this completely out of your awareness, and you're doing this energetically, right? Like, it actually makes reciprocity, something that feels like the like the the natural flow of the wind, you know, because you're not trying to reach for it. And when we're trying to search and reach for it, that's when it becomes so much more conditional, right? Because yeah, reciprocity is there like we're meant to receive? Absolutely, but, but you don't want to go in and, and give so that you can receive that is manipulative. The fact is, when you deepen trust in the universe, you know, without a doubt that when you give, you're going to receive is it always going to be from that particular person you've given to in that particular moment? No, not always, sometimes yes, but not always, you're always going to receive back sometimes it's gonna be from the universe, sometimes it will be from that person, but maybe later on,
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I was just gonna say, I'm so glad you brought that up. Because it's not always going to be from that person that you're giving it to, right. But you just need to know that that love going out is going to return to you in some capacity. And I think this is where this whole episode we started that relationship, relationships are not 5050, right? They're not even, right, sometimes somebody's gonna have to show up 100%. And you're not gonna receive anything from that other person. Because they're in their own processing, they're in their own way of doing it. And so you by you showing up 100% With that unconditional love, because you've taken that time to to fuel you and nourish you, you're showing up fully, you're gonna get something from somebody else, but it's not, it might not even be at that same level, it might be. This is very logical of our human right, but it might be 10% from this person, and 90% from another person or some activity or rarely, it doesn't even have to be a person. But it's not about keeping scoring, competing. It's just like, show up with the most unconditional love in your heart. But that starts back with yourself.
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It does, it does. And it's reminding me of something what you're saying is reminded me of something with like feeling complete, keep saying like filling up and feeling complete. And one of my clients said the other day, and I was so brilliant. And she was like, what if we're not meant to be fully full? What it meant to have some space? Because when what if we're meant to have some space, and that's, that's that piece of it that we're like, but I feel still feel a little empty, but I still feel a little lonely. But But what if that's meant to remain open so that you can continue to have space to receive the magic and the possibilities and the source energy that is meant to flow in and I was like, Oh my gosh, that is such magic medicine. Thank you. I love that. I love that so much. Because you're right, I am saying falling complete. But no, I believe that we need that space it to me, we've talked about this in another episode. I don't know, maybe I was saying this to a client too. Like if you're decluttering your house, you're removing things out of your house, you're making space right? There doesn't have to be anything in every corner of your house, you need to leave some quarters of that house open so that it can allow something in so that it can just none of that allows something in always right but just be open. And the same goes for us. And what you just said, is a perfect analogy for holding space for those people in our lives. Without being codependent which is create space. You just talked about creating space in your physical environment, create space, the more space that you have right for yourself. And this includes in your environment, in your mind in your heart and your energy field, right. The more space you create, the more space you have to hold that person in their whatever they're in. But being a witness and being in
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observer and being able to say, I see you in this. And I have faith in you. And so this is what we talked about, I think in episode one, right? Where it's like, we can hold space where it's like, you know, I don't have to feel you, I can understand and I can get how you're feeling the way you're feeling based on your perspective and the space you're in. And I deeply trust that you can move through this and that you will move through it, whether it's now whether it's in a day, whether it's in an hour, whether it's in three weeks, right, like, I am honored and grace, grateful that you were sharing yourself with me, you're allowing yourself to be seen by me. And sometimes that's all people need is just to be seen, just to be heard. And just to know that there's a space to place themselves. Raleigh, which is if you guys haven't listened to Episode One, go back to Episode One, because that's a lot of what we talked about there. And more specifics, but this was really beautiful. I really love this talk today, and really good nuggets came out of this. So thank you so much. Oh, thank you. Oh, my gosh, this is so good. Fun. Yeah. And guys, next time, next week, stay tuned, because our, I'm excited about our conversation next week, we're gonna be talking about attachment styles and primal history and abandonment wounds and stuff like that, right? But we're gonna bring, we're gonna bring a lightness to it, we're gonna bring I have so many so many opinions on this and so much knowledge on this as well. And so I'm excited to kind of merge this concept of like, conscious understanding with like, what's really underneath these kinds of concepts that we need to be connecting to. So yeah, keep your eyes peeled. We'll be back and thank you so much for tuning in. We will see you very very soon. Bye.
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Thank you for joining me for this episode of the Akashic musings Podcast. I'm so grateful you're taking the time to integrate healing at the deepest level. If you loved this episode, connect with me on Instagram at emerge healing & wellness or contact me through my website at www.theakashictherapist.com. I'll see you next week on the next episode of the Akashic musings podcast. Bye for now and have a wonderful week.
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