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Laura 0:40
and I'm Laura mazzotta, an Akashic therapist. Sit back, relax and receive as new insights. Enter your awareness during these illuminating conversations. Welcome to Episode Eight of divinely grounded. I'm bringing something forward today that surrounds irritability. So there were a couple days where I was just feeling kind of pissy, like just irritable. I wouldn't say that I was like, pissy in general, but I just felt like I got irritated more easily. And it was interesting what came up for me, because I'm able to witness these emotions is not necessarily like, it's kind of separated from me when they arrive in my field now and so, so irritability comes up, right? And my first question to myself is, really, you know, what is this really showing me? Because I know this isn't about the other person, and I think that's what immediately happens when we get irritated with someone is, we are like, Oh my God, they're annoying the shit out of me, or, oh my god, they're being so annoying, or they're being such a dick, or whatever it is, right? And we automatically go into blame. And so it's like, I know it's not about them, like, I know it's not about them because they have their own like, they get to be whoever they want to be, right? They get to be whoever they want to be. And so if I'm getting irritated, that tells me that either there's something that I'm needing that I'm not offering myself, so I am being invited into greater personal responsibility to do that, or I am irritated because I am now placed in a position where I need to set a boundary, and I'm pissy about it, and it's just funny, because it's almost like me having a tantrum over like, but I don't want to set a boundary. I don't want to say I'm not available for that because I love this person, and I don't want to say, You're irritating me, or that irritates me. And obviously this isn't going to happen if somebody irritates you, like, one off, right? It's something that happens more consistently with with a person or in a certain situation, and it's just being able to to take responsibility and take ownership for irritability. And this is something that helped me, really when I shifted this and had this recognition rest into a much calmer space in interactions with others, like you're allowed to be as quote unquote annoying as you want, just as I am. I'm sure I annoy the shit out of people too. I know I do right and irritate people too. And so it's like we're all going to have those nuances. And it's, you know, what is it that I desire or a need right now to nourish myself or to soothe myself, because if I find that I'm extra irritable, then that's me being able to, like, restore whatever stores I need. Or it is about me, of course, not blaming or putting something on somebody else because I'm irritated, because obviously my irritation has to do with my own nervous system, reactivity, the own, you know, the story that I may be telling in my mind, or whatever, and and I get to say, yeah, that's just like, not my thing, or that's not something that I desire to discuss, or that's a boundary. So what does this feel like when I share this with you?
Jenna 3:54
A lot of things coming up, one being when you say, you just witness emotions that arise. Like you've gotten to a point where you just witness emotions arise. I kind of want to unpack that, but I also don't want to derail the conversation, because I think that's an interesting thing that that would be helpful for people to understand and to see process that you have and being able to witness things as they arise, instead of just immediately reacting or attaching to them, You know what I mean. But the other part of this is, I also want to say we have to be careful in those instances too, just to play devil's advocate here and not taking over responsibility in ourselves like that, right? Because we can easily put so much on ourselves and just completely and entirely dismiss something that does need to be, I don't know, resolved between situation or people or something like that, right?
Laura 4:50
Well, and that's why I say it's, it's not all over responsibility, because, yes, you can err on that side of taking on. It's not taking on. In everything as your own, because it's either recognizing, is this something for me that I need to restore within myself, or that I need to be present with, or is this something that I just desire to set a boundary with?
Jenna 5:11
And where's that recognition come from in you?
Laura 5:16
So that recognition for me comes from a very clear discernment, like a very clear knowing, and that's typically going to come from, like a pause or a moment of space with myself, or more space with myself, where I'm able to really clarify first of all, like, is this, is this energy minor? Is this energy not which we've talked about before, you know? And I think that sometimes it's, yeah, I'm just kind of, you know what it is, it's always going to be helpful for me to nourish myself. So why would I not just choose to do that first, right? I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna nourish myself. I'm gonna be with myself, even if it's for a moment, right? And then I'll have my clarity, because at that point, I'm either going to feel fulfilled and recognize whether or not I need more fulfillment in that way, or whether or not this is something in context that I'm just like, Okay, this is fine, like I was able to give myself something, but there also needs to be a boundary here, because it's also something that I do not feel like I desire to come up against again, like this isn't going to continue to stretch me into more of who I am. That's actually going to, you know, keep me small, or interfere with or not align with who I am and and the kinds of conversations I want to have.
Jenna 6:36
I like the the idea of simply self nourishing regardless. Yeah, I like that too. Yeah, that feels really good, because in that every time, clarity will arise again regardless, right? Because you're providing yourself with what it is that you need, it's having the recognition of what do I need? Because we are all entirely self sustaining, and we've talked about that before, like that, and that comes from from within, but it also comes from source. So we can obtain any need or want within ourselves and within communing with source. When we take that pause,
Laura 7:17
yeah, and it's there's an infinite amount of nourishment that we can receive from that space, which is why erring on the side of nourishment and making that your default choice is always going to be best. And I also think it's really important to note that, you know, yes, we are very self sustaining at the same time that that's where the boundary piece comes into conversation too, because we also are here on this planet as human beings and are meant to co regulate with each other. We're meant to be able to expand with one another and rest in one another and and love one another and come into sensation together, right like we are meant to do that. And so I think that refining those relationships and what's in alignment for you, what's not is a natural byproduct of you being able to respond to any level of emotional or nervous system reactivity that comes forward when you're in connection, which goes back to what you were saying when you were first answering this around. You know, how do you, what were you asking me?
Jenna 8:14
How do you, what is your process for simply witnessing those types of emotions when they arise the irritation or the annoyance, or whatever it may be.
Laura 8:22
So that, to me, has been such an evolution over the course of my journey. So I really think that answer kind of depends on where you are on your path, because there's a whole spectrum of things that you can do with that. I mean, I think that when emotions come forward, for me, my first response is curiosity and kind of a holding and a tenderness toward myself. And typically, from there, it will just move, because it's energy and it's it's always in motion. But if it's something that's stickier, it's something that I will sit with. But it's funny, because in the past, what I've done is I've kind of sat with it as my sadness or my frustration or whatever it is, and sometimes I'll journal about that and get, like, an understanding of any subconscious stuff that might be there, or I'll just let the energy kind of move through. But either way, I'm still kind of coming into it as, like, I'm going to be with myself, in my with with my sadness, and there's like a level of ownership with it, whereas now what I've shifted to is more like it's it's kind of like we were talking about in the episode where we talked about shame as a spirit guide. It's almost like having that sadness or that frustration or whatever it is as this entity that exists outside of me, and then I'm just in presence with so it's not mine. It just is. And so when that comes in, how I recognize it, since I've evolved to this place of. Of I know that everything that moves through me is of deep service to the collective. And it's obviously, if it's coming through me, it benefits me as well. And I'm going to expand from that too. But when I shifted into the lens of, like, how is the presence of this coming into my field serving the greater good? And that might feel like, holy shit, that's a big process for, like, a small fucking emotion. Again, I'm not doing this for every little thing, right? Like, this is something that gets a little stickier, okay? And it's like, you know, there's obviously, to me, what I look at this as is, like, there's a download here, there's like a download here that is meant to come through for with wisdom for the collective. And I almost see this as, like my little sadness shaman, right? Or, like, my little, my little, wait, I've got to think of, like, really fun things like this. So my frustration fairy, we're going to call it a frustration fairy. So like these little, like spiritual entities, right? That I and so it's kind of like, Oh, hi, frustration fairy. What do you have to share with the collective today, right? And so it's a little bit more of like, I recognize that this isn't just mine, because I know that I am part of unity consciousness, and that whatever I'm feeling is obviously being felt somewhere else on this planet as well, or in the universe. This energy exists somewhere else, and so as it gets alchemized, it is in service. Does this make sense?
Jenna 11:22
Yes, and it makes them feel… “them” being emotions…. It makes them feel so much lighter, yes, as opposed to just grabbing them as, quote, unquote, ours to, I don't know just that, because they they latch on and they stick to different places of your body based on, like, prior, anything trauma, prior, just experience, and so they stick in your body to those specific places. But when you're in that space of saying, Okay, this is my sadness, Shaman, if you look at it that way, it takes it, you know, to an external point. It's not internalized, it's externalized. And you're saying, Okay, this is separate from me.
Laura 12:01
Right. And it's not this, like burden or pressure, like I have to resolve this, or I have to move this through, or I have to understand this, right? Instead, it's like, okay, this is here to inform, right? This is here to offer, something like, what is your offering? You know, I'm going to receive the offering of sadness. I'm going to receive the offering because, yeah, it's interesting to me, how when these emotions come up for me lately, when I and that's how I kind of got to this point, is I would enter into my journaling process, and I started recognizing that it would just get so much further from me, like I would start to write about, and it would be like two sentences of how it came up, and it's almost like this, this message I keep getting of like, it's not about you, it's not about you. Like, when you get stuck in all these emotions and stories like you were talking about that are attached to them in narratives and and why they're here, and what we need to learn from them, and all of that we can really get this very narrow focus and and really like that we get into this little self healing system and forget that everything that we're doing is is of deep medicine to the people around us, to you, shifting these kinds of energies and to a higher level of consciousness or perspective changes collective consciousness, and it's recognizing your role in that, and that you just being in this very curious witnessing, without making it all about you, because that's what happens. Then we become victims, and we're like, oh my gosh, like, I had to heal my sisterhood wound, and did it like that? Kept coming up for me, the fucking sisterhood wound. It kept coming up for me. And I got the message. I was healing it for my daughter, and again, and then it came up again. And then when I wrote about it, I mean, I literally wrote about it So briefly, because it immediately became apparent. It's like, right? Because it's not about Laura, you have to keep diving back in to heal your shit. You have to keep diving back in to heal your shit, right? No, it's really just about like there's a broader message here. There's a systemic impact as to why you keep getting into this narrative, right? That is meant to be changed on a broader level, and not just kept in your field of, oh, Laura has to heal her sisterhood wound, and then she can check that box and move on. And it's like, great, but if that shit keeps coming back, it's like this is a bigger narrative that I meant to share and shift and advocate for.
Jenna 14:33
I like what you were talking about, about getting stuck in those, like healing cycles too, because you see this a lot with people and how they just get stuck in this. I have to heal this. I have to heal this. I have to heal this. And you never feel like you're ever truly coming into your own when you're constantly having to go like, back into finding more, into looking for more, and to say, oh, I need to receive more from. This piece of myself, or going into past life bullshit, and it's like, no like, at some point you have to just decide like, you just have to decide that you are healed, that you are already whole, and you can always become more whole through source, through receiving more from your higher self, through receiving more from the collective, from others, right? But we come into this world at a level of wholeness, and it's not like we have to continue to dive into these like, Yes, I mean, there's a time and a place for shadow work. I'm not saying that there isn't, like, I get that right, but at the same time, like, we can't just live in that, because it's going to keep us in such a specific place.
Laura 15:43
Because there's such an implication there, you're 100% right? There's such an implication there that there's something that needs to be fixed, something that needs to be changed. And the fact is, like you said, there's a place for Shadow Work, Work. Well, if you come into presence, if you come into self nourishment, and that is meant to be seen. And there's something that in is meant to shift with that it'll, it'll show itself like.
Jenna 16:11
And maybe the work is, is the acceptance of the shadow, not the dissipation of it.
Laura 16:18
Correct.
Jenna 16:18
Not, you know, checking the box and say, Okay, that's healed next not that it's saying, oh, okay, I recognize this and I see this, and now I choose differently. Not let me go through a ton of different modalities and different shit to try and make myself feel a certain way when I think about it, it's like, no, because you're not that. You don't need to think about it. You don't need to be in that place of putting a narrative on it,
Laura 16:42
Yeah
Jenna 16:42
And you get to, instead, let it move right?
Laura 16:45
Agreed, and I think the only time that that is not going to work is if people can't choose, like they just, they feel paralyzed, right, like they're either, like, in free state, or they're overwhelmed, so overwhelmed, or whatever. And so they, they just feel like they they can't make that choice, or they can't execute that choice, and so then it's like, okay, let's come into presence with this, particularly with somebody who can hold you safely if you're at that level of stuckness, to be honest. But yeah, I do think that when we turn backwards, it gives us this idea that there's something wrong. And really what this brings us to is being in full presence with what we are, knowing that that is a compilation of all those things that have happened before as well, and that ultimately, if there is something even that we're sitting with that comes up as Shadow to be shifted witnessed whatever. It's also not just yours, right? It's also not just yours. So you don't have to go on. There's the flaw. It finally showed itself. Now I see why I've been a piece of shit for 35 years or whatever, right? Oh, my God. Finally I see why I suck, or finally I see why I can't do X, Y and Z, and it's just funny, because it's like that also doesn't belong like, nothing belongs to us. It all belongs to source. It all belongs to the universe. It's all energy, right? And so it's also in recognition that being in the presence of that is also collective shadow. There's somebody else who's had a similar trauma, if not the same resonance, right? There's somebody else who's had a similar experience in their lives, or our vibration or emotion that's coming forward and so and the unique flavor and texture that you might be bringing to that alchemy as it comes forward and you move it, or shift it, or come into presence with it, is contributing to this, like database of energetic information and collective consciousness that just helps other people heal with greater ease, with greater awareness, whether you publicly share this or not, you are like depositing into the energy bank and saying, okay, like we've Come into presence in humanity with this at a deeper level of richness.
Jenna 19:04
I really love that
Laura 19:07
Yeah, because it's like it. That's why, you know, I like this too, because this was, I originally brought this forward because of this concept of personal responsibility. And I like the way this is going, because it's really showing me that it's really our taking our responsibility for for sure, exactly for contributing to the collective. That's really what it is in, in the smallest to the greatest form, however you want to move with it is how you're guided. But like, yeah, it's like, I take responsibility for the fact that I contribute to this collective even with the individual emotions I feel.
Jenna 19:41
And this is what I'm going to do with it
Laura 19:43
Yeah, yeah. That's really beautiful. Thank you for receiving me in this.
Jenna 19:46
I really love this.
Laura 19:48
Me too. This was kind of delicious.
Jenna 19:50
Yeah.
Laura 19:51
All right, everybody, thank you for joining us for Episode Eight. We will see you for episode nine very shortly. Have a fabulous day.
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